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Thought this was a cool essay on Breaking Bad and the tv anti-hero trend:
http://avclub.com/articles/breaking-...troduci,103483
If this is a show about good and evil, it had to take a stab at what good might look like beyond Jesse’s tears, and if that was a little unsatisfying—perhaps because it came via a character the show had trained us to see as, if not Satan, at least a monster—then so be it. It was a tentative stab at something new. At growth.Last edited by SteelBlue; 09-30-2013, 10:08 AM.
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He also referred to Jesse as Walt's arch nemesis? WTF?Originally posted by jay santos View PostGilligan's full of shit.
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Gilligan's full of shit.Originally posted by MarkGrace View PostGilligan claimed last night Walt's intention when he went to the compound was to kill Jesse with the rest, but then he couldn't do it when he saw him.
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Gilligan claimed last night Walt's intention when he went to the compound was to kill Jesse with the rest, but then he couldn't do it when he saw him.
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Same here. That wasn't a stretch at all to me.Originally posted by Pheidippides View PostNot to me at all. Call Jack whatever you want, he had a bizarre moral code of honor. He wouldn't take being called a liar.
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Right, or just his "oh shit, he busted me" to Walt calling him out on the fact that he never offed Jesse like he said he would. I can't recall exactly what they shook on, but remember Jack asking Walt to shake on something out in the desert? Even though he's a POS, it did seem that Jack had some type of code.Originally posted by Pheidippides View PostNot to me at all. Call Jack whatever you want, he had a bizarre moral code of honor. He wouldn't take being called a liar.
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While he was on top of Jesse you could see when he took a bullet, presumably from a ricochet. With bullets piercing first the car body, the building wall, and then stuff in the room I appreciated the fact that the field of fire expanded well beyond a horizontal plane.Originally posted by RC Vikings View PostWhen did Walt get shot? He was on the ground while his gun was mowing down the Nazis.
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Not to me at all. Call Jack whatever you want, he had a bizarre moral code of honor. He wouldn't take being called a liar.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostIf I had to nitpick anything from the final episode, it would be the scene where they are about to shoot Walt and he makes some comment about Jesse that causes skinhead master to go fetch Jesse to make a point. That seemed really far-fetched and way too convenient.
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I agree it was a bit too easy, but I was willing to play along. And fils, I agree with others that he would have just waited for the police, perhaps giving him a chance to provide further testimony that would help exonerate Skyler. Speaking of which, why did the police show up so quickly after the shootout? As with other things, I don't really care if it was another convenient if somewhat dubious plot point. It made for a nice closing shot of Walt lying in his own blood in the meth lab while the cops slowly swept through.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostIf I had to nitpick anything from the final episode, it would be the scene where they are about to shoot Walt and he makes some comment about Jesse that causes skinhead master to go fetch Jesse to make a point. That seemed really far-fetched and way too convenient.
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When did Walt get shot? He was on the ground while his gun was mowing down the Nazis.Originally posted by filsdepac View PostWhat would Walt have done if he didn't get shot?
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I didn't remember this until reading a recap last night, but there was a scene a couple seasons ago where Jesse tells this story to his rehab group about this beautiful wooden box he built and how proud he was of it, only to later sell it for drug money. Here's the scene. Unfortunately it's a crappy video of someone filming their tv, but it's a great scene.Originally posted by OhioBlue View Postcouple more things that stuck out to me about Jesse in particular...the dream scene where he's crafting the wood box provided a glimpse of something better for a character that probably most deserved 'something better.' I haven't looked it up yet, but wasn't he talking to either his therapy group or Jane at some point about what he would do with his life, and mentioned woodworking? Nice touch. Also, loved how he got to call Walt out on his one last attempt to get Jesse to do what he (Walt) wanted when Walt passed him the gun...a fitting final shift in their relationship. Kind of a "I'm not doing your bidding anymore."
So many satisfying details. You can do so much in an episode with even a couple lines of dialogue. Which is why I hate the excuse that's given for why a show doesn't revisit or tie up loose ends: "there just wasn't time." Wrong. You just weren't creative enough to figure out how in a way that does it justice. Breaking Bad should serve as one of those model shows from here on out.
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If I had to nitpick anything from the final episode, it would be the scene where they are about to shoot Walt and he makes some comment about Jesse that causes skinhead master to go fetch Jesse to make a point. That seemed really far-fetched and way too convenient.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostTense, right from the start. The initial scene, as he waited in the snowbound car with the police lights seen through snow-covered rear window, was done superbly. I was dreading what I expected to be a shoot-out with the police, and found myself pulling for Walt to make it out, but certainly didn't want the cops to pay the price. Then he offers a prayer (!), "Just get me home. Just get me home.... I'll do the rest." Looking upward, he sees the visor, pulls it down, and into his lap falls the instrument of his deliverance, as the chorus of El Paso plays on. And for once in the show, only bad people died, good people survived, justice was served, and it was all done without being too cheesy or straining credulity (at least not too much). I have nothing but respect for Vince Gilligan and his writing team.
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