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  • Color Me Badd Fan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 12519

    #46
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    And then they are going to imagine the same scenario but with a male teacher and a female student and realize how stupid it is to think this is cool. She is going to jail.
    This is a dumb, but common, rejoinder to these hot female teacher hooks up with high school boy stories. I just don't think it's the same. Simply put, we accept differences between the genders as it relates to sex and the assignment of responsibility -- that's why a drunk male can be charged with rape after sex with a drunk female and you never see the reverse, while both are equally intoxicated.

    I don't think high school boys and girls are remotely similar in this regard, especially boys that are 16 and 17. Again, unless actual coercion (we don't know if this happened or not), then this kid was probably high-fiving his friends and telling stories about it in the lockeroom. The overwhelming likelihood is that this kid will go through the rest of his life without feelings of being abused.

    I'm not advocating that this is appropriate. Female high school teachers clearly shouldn't be having sex with their students (or vice versa of course). I also think it's inappropriate for a college professor to do the same thing. But I think it's a little ridiculous that this woman is going to have to potentially spend some serious time in jail and then register as a sex offender because she had sex with a 17 year old kid.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 37988

      #47
      Why are you consistently focusing on how cool a 17 year old might think this is? Do you think that would be a valid defense for her in court? Of course not. Whether this kid feels "abused" is 100% irrelevant.
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      • old_gregg
        scaly man fish
        • Nov 2009
        • 16915

        #48
        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
        The overwhelming likelihood is that this kid will go through the rest of his life without feelings of being abused.
        that's a pretty bold assertion. is it actually supported by anything?
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        • The_Douger
          Athletic Supporter
          • Jun 2012
          • 5413

          #49
          Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
          Also, if sex crimes aren't about sex for predatory men, why would they be for predatory women?
          I was curious about your other comment earlier in the thread about building a defense on her attractiveness.

          What would the angle be there if you were trying to do that?
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          • byu71
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22070

            #50
            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            But I think it's a little ridiculous that this woman is going to have to potentially spend some serious time in jail and then register as a sex offender because she had sex with a 17 year old kid.
            Especially 17 year olds in this day and age. They are only 1 year off from being mature enough to serve full time missions. Plenty of them get drunk and do the majijauana thing. A large number of them probably have had several sexual partners. You can't bring that up in a trial can you?

            Yea, the kid isn't pissed or harmed for life. Now the parents, that is another story.

            If the kids is indeed damaged then that should have to be proven to. Find out if this teacher is the one that started him on his sexual journey or she was just some action along the way.

            And yes, until I stop holding doors for women, I think there should be a different standard for young women.

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            • Color Me Badd Fan
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 12519

              #51
              Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
              that's a pretty bold assertion. is it actually supported by anything?
              Yeah, being a 17 year old boy at one point and knowing countless other 17 year old boys.

              Lol. What do you expect in support? Let me google scholarly articles on whether 17 year old boys are traumatized for a lifetime after having sex with a hot teacher...

              ...sorry, didn't find one. Obviously the premise is too ridiculous to study. Of course, a 17 year old boy wouldn't be traumatized by this. Would you like to find an article on whether 18 year old boys are traumatized after having sex with 34 year old women? Better yet, find one that supports the hypothesis that a 17 year old kid is traumatized after sex with a 34 year old woman while an 18 year old kid is not.

              This woman will never teach again. No one will ever hire her for a job that will have in her in contact with teenage boys. She should be allowed to plead to a Class A misdemeanor, perhaps make her spend a month in jail.
              Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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              • Color Me Badd Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 12519

                #52
                I didn't say it's a valid defense, I was just saying how hilarious it will probably seem to a male juror. Do you think if I were an attorney I'd be advising her to play up how awesome it was for the 17 year old boy? It's merely a random observation.
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • Jeff Lebowski
                  Corporate lackey for Jesus
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 69718

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                  This is a dumb, but common, rejoinder to these hot female teacher hooks up with high school boy stories. I just don't think it's the same. Simply put, we accept differences between the genders as it relates to sex and the assignment of responsibility -- that's why a drunk male can be charged with rape after sex with a drunk female and you never see the reverse, while both are equally intoxicated.

                  I don't think high school boys and girls are remotely similar in this regard, especially boys that are 16 and 17. Again, unless actual coercion (we don't know if this happened or not), then this kid was probably high-fiving his friends and telling stories about it in the lockeroom. The overwhelming likelihood is that this kid will go through the rest of his life without feelings of being abused.

                  I'm not advocating that this is appropriate. Female high school teachers clearly shouldn't be having sex with their students (or vice versa of course). I also think it's inappropriate for a college professor to do the same thing. But I think it's a little ridiculous that this woman is going to have to potentially spend some serious time in jail and then register as a sex offender because she had sex with a 17 year old kid.
                  Good lord, what a post. I hardly know where to begin...

                  Let's try this: Based on your logic it would seem that the hotness of the teacher should have a bearing on the eventual judgment and ruling of the case. Suppose that we still had the same sexes and ages, but the teacher looked like this instead:



                  Different ruling, right?

                  I would LOVE to see a defense team make the argument you are making. That would be awesome to watch.
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                  • old_gregg
                    scaly man fish
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 16915

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                    Yeah, being a 17 year old boy at one point and knowing countless other 17 year old boys.

                    Lol. What do you expect in support? Let me google scholarly articles on whether 17 year old boys are traumatized for a lifetime after having sex with a hot teacher...

                    ...sorry, didn't find one. Obviously the premise is too ridiculous to study. Of course, a 17 year old boy wouldn't be traumatized by this. Would you like to find an article on whether 18 year old boys are traumatized after having sex with 34 year old women? Better yet, find one that supports the hypothesis that a 17 year old kid is traumatized after sex with a 34 year old woman while an 18 year old kid is not.

                    This woman will never teach again. No one will ever hire her for a job that will have in her in contact with teenage boys. She should be allowed to plead to a Class A misdemeanor, perhaps make her spend a month in jail.
                    super dumb post
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                    • byu71
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 22070

                      #55
                      Did the second kid really describe his relationship or the teacher as "a teacher with benefits". What the hades does that mean. The kid is scarred for life. Could he go on a mission immediately since it wasn't his fault.

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                      • Paperback Writer
                        Signature won a Pulitzer
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 5211

                        #56
                        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        Did the second kid really describe his relationship or the teacher as "a teacher with benefits". What the hades does that mean. The kid is scarred for life. Could he go on a mission immediately since it wasn't his fault.
                        No mission immediately. The student should have run naked down the hall after being stripped by Potiphar's wife.
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                        • HBCoug
                          Peanut Gallery Asshat
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 2082

                          #57
                          Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                          Did the second kid really describe his relationship or the teacher as "a teacher with benefits". What the hades does that mean. The kid is scarred for life. Could he go on a mission immediately since it wasn't his fault.
                          '71, "friends with benefits" is a term the kids use these days to describe uncommitted intercourse with "friends" of the opposite sex. I'm assuming "teacher with benefits" is a play off of this term. Some more crass individuals use the term FB or "fuck buddies." Hope this helps.

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #58
                            Originally posted by HBCoug View Post
                            '71, "friends with benefits" is a term the kids use these days to describe uncommitted intercourse with "friends" of the opposite sex. I'm assuming "teacher with benefits" is a play off of this term. Some more crass individuals use the term FB or "fuck buddies." Hope this helps.
                            I always assumed that a "teacher with benefits" was a reference to a teacher with health insurance, full dental, retirement, etc.
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                            • imanihonjin
                              Junior Member
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 3772

                              #59
                              Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                              I always assumed that a "teacher with benefits" was a reference to a teacher with health insurance, full dental, retirement, etc.
                              Don't worry, that is a common mistake.

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                              • Pheidippides
                                Liberal Feminazi
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14759

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                                Also, if sex crimes aren't about sex for predatory men, why would they be for predatory women?
                                Which is why I said I was being naive.
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