Apple vs. PC

[falafel]

the price difference is immaterial and the performance jump/potential is significant

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/campilobaxter/saved/ptCLD3

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Here is one I put together today. Anything seriously wrong with this? I'm not sure I need the CPU fan.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fsX9gL

You don't need a CPU fan unless you buy a K or X chip.

As Ol Dirty Bastard said, there could be a problem with the RAM. I don't know a ton about an AMD build, except I would note that Intel has a dominant market share and these different computer parts will first be optimized for Intel's chips with AMD being an afterthought. Whether this really makes a difference -- I have no idea. One thing I will note, is I have no idea how AMD's chips interact with NVME drives, particularly as a boot drive.

I really like that mobo. You want to have at least a 550w power supply in the event you get a video card. The reason I wish I got the 650 W is because I would prefer my system to only be using around less than 60% of my PSU in the event I get a video card. It was only a $10 difference.

[falafel]

You don't need a CPU fan unless you buy a K or X chip.

As Ol Dirty Bastard said, there could be a problem with the RAM. I don't know a ton about an AMD build, except I would note that Intel has a dominant market share and these different computer parts will first be optimized for Intel's chips with AMD being an afterthought. Whether this really makes a difference -- I have no idea. One thing I will note, is I have no idea how AMD's chips interact with NVME drives, particularly as a boot drive.

I really like that mobo. You want to have at least a 550w power supply in the event you get a video card. The reason I wish I got the 650 W is because I would prefer my system to only be using around less than 60% of my PSU in the event I get a video card. It was only a $10 difference.

Gotcha.

From what I have read, the new Ryzen chips are really good, although nothing really beats the i7 7700k for gaming. The Ryzen 5s are excellent however.

[old_gregg]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/campil...r/saved/ptCLD3

that's a nice build

[pelagius]

Gotcha.

From what I have read, the new Ryzen chips are really good, although nothing really beats the i7 7700k for gaming. The Ryzen 5s are excellent however.

Ryzen 5 is a good choice for a build these days. A 6 core / 12 thread CPU at a little over 200; that's great. Yes, many modern games benefit from the better per core performance of the intel chips, but I would think with a 1050 ti the CPU would rarely be your fps bottleneck (somebody like gamers nexus has probably done careful benchmarks of this). Arguably, Ryzen 5 will be more future proof because software and apps in the future will likely only get better at taking advantage of the additional cores (particularly since the rumors about Intel's coffee lake is that they are increasing the core count of the mainstream line).

I haven't done a Ryzen build yet, but I think a probably will in the next few months.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/campil...r/saved/ptCLD3

Spend the extra $20 on the NVME solid state, that's the 960 EVO. It's super easy to install, no sata or power cord to mess with. The speed of the thing is insane.

That's a good deal on the mobo, read some of the reviews on newegg and on Tom's Hardware to make sure there isn't some kind of issue with it.

The power supply is not modular, however I'm not sure if it's worth an extra $20 to get the Seasonic Focus + Gold just because it's modular.

[old_gregg]

Spend the extra $20 on the NVME solid state, that's the 960 EVO. It's super easy to install, no sata or power cord to mess with. The speed of the thing is insane.

That's a good deal on the mobo, read some of the reviews on newegg and on Tom's Hardware to make sure there isn't some kind of issue with it.

The power supply is not modular, however I'm not sure if it's worth an extra $20 to get the Seasonic Focus + Gold just because it's modular.

fancy cable management is for queers

[falafel]

Spend the extra $20 on the NVME solid state, that's the 960 EVO. It's super easy to install, no sata or power cord to mess with. The speed of the thing is insane.

Thanks, I actually though the 850 was NVMe.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

Also, it might be better to get the Cryorig H7 instead of the M9i. Read the reviews, see if the M9i is quite a bit louder than the H7.

[jay santos]

Why don't you guys just go on KSL and buy the computers gamer nerds build for themselves and then can't afford anymore, which are maybe not quite the same spec, but close, and several hundred cheaper, and not a pita to build yourself?

[pelagius]

Also, it might be better to get the Cryorig H7 instead of the M9i. Read the reviews, see if the M9i is quite a bit louder than the H7.

I like the H7 and have used it in a build; pretty nice cooler for the price.

[old_gregg]

Why don't you guys just go on KSL and buy the computers gamer nerds build for themselves and then can't afford anymore, which are maybe not quite the same spec, but close, and several hundred cheaper, and not a pita to build yourself?

very overpriced and full of cheeto dust

[falafel]

Why don't you guys just go on KSL and buy the computers gamer nerds build for themselves and then can't afford anymore, which are maybe not quite the same spec, but close, and several hundred cheaper, and not a pita to build yourself?

Because those people always think that a 10% off what they paid 6 months ago and then played Fallout 4 non-stop on the machine is a good deal.

[falafel]

Also, it might be better to get the Cryorig H7 instead of the M9i. Read the reviews, see if the M9i is quite a bit louder than the H7.

I like the H7 and have used it in a build; pretty nice cooler for the price.

Thanks, I had the Cryorig in there at one point, I'll check it out.

[falafel]

very overpriced and full of cheeto dust

Like this guy, who wants $1800 for a PC that would cost $1100 to build new.