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  • BigFatMeanie
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 7108

    #76
    A state has two options:

    1. Opt out of DST altogether. They can do this without any action from Congress; however, no state has opted to do this except Hawaii and Arizona. Tthis is mainly due to lobbying by retailers including the "outdoor lobby".

    2. Make DST permanent. This can be done with authorization from either Congress OR the Secretary of Transportation (currently Buttigieg) (https://www.transportation.gov/regulations/time-act). The 3 states on the Pacific coast have already voted on legislation indicating they want to make DST permanent. 15 other states in addition to the west coast states have also indicated they want to make DST permanent. It can be done on a state by state basis - doesn't have to be the same for everyone. Each year bipartisan bills are introduced in Congress to do just that, but for some reason they never gain any traction. I have no idea if the states that have passed legislation to make the switch permanent have officially submitted to the DOT and, if they have, why the various Transportation Secretaries don't authorize it. Regardless, it doesn't increase my confidence in the general effectiveness of our federal government.
    Last edited by BigFatMeanie; 11-07-2021, 01:14 PM.

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69623

      #77
      I have come around on this. The current system is best. Don’t change it.
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • chrisrenrut
        Strikes and Gutters
        • Jul 2009
        • 2279

        #78
        Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
        I have come around on this. The current system is best. Don’t change it.
        I argree. Bonus is that we get to maintain the semi-annual whine-fest from people who have dealt with this all of their lives, but still can’t seem to adapt to a simple one hour change.

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        • Scott R Nelson
          UofU/BYU mixed marriage
          • Apr 2010
          • 1508

          #79
          Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

          I argree. Bonus is that we get to maintain the semi-annual whine-fest from people who have dealt with this all of their lives, but still can’t seem to adapt to a simple one hour change.
          There is a difference between being able to adapt to the change and liking it.

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          • Bo Diddley
            Senior
            • Jul 2012
            • 18769

            #80
            Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

            I argree. Bonus is that we get to maintain the semi-annual whine-fest from people who have dealt with this all of their lives, but still can’t seem to adapt to a simple one hour change.
            I only whine in the Spring.

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            • All-American
              Right, as Usual
              • Nov 2008
              • 15657

              #81
              Originally posted by Scott R Nelson View Post
              There is a difference between being able to adapt to the change and liking it.
              I like it.
              τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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              • Scott R Nelson
                UofU/BYU mixed marriage
                • Apr 2010
                • 1508

                #82

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                • beefytee
                  Board eye candy
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 7542

                  #83
                  Last edited by beefytee; 03-15-2022, 05:22 PM.

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                  • Jeff Lebowski
                    Corporate lackey for Jesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 69623

                    #84
                    Dummies
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Applejack
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3812

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Dummies
                      Why do you say this? I don't think it is the most pressing issue facing the nation (that would be CRT), but it seems reasonable to me.

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                      • smokymountainrain
                        Impressive Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 22593

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Applejack View Post

                        Why do you say this? I don't think it is the most pressing issue facing the nation (that would be CRT), but it seems reasonable to me.
                        I'd rather my little kids not have to walk school in the dark at 8:30am in the winter. not to mention 95 degree heat at 9 o'clock at night in the summer freaking sucks. let's get the sun down at 8 in the summer so it's a reasonable temperature at 9pm. i don't know, call me crazy! in short, daylight savings time blows.
                        Last edited by smokymountainrain; 03-16-2022, 06:46 AM.
                        I'm like LeBron James.
                        -mpfunk

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69623

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Applejack View Post

                          Why do you say this? I don't think it is the most pressing issue facing the nation (that would be CRT), but it seems reasonable to me.
                          Current system works great. We have become a nation of babies where changing a couple of clocks two times per year is a huge hardship.
                          "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Omaha 680
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 11175

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                            Current system works great. We have become a nation of babies where changing a couple of clocks two times per year is a huge hardship.
                            If we put the clock changes back to their original dates I agree with you. Doing standard time for five months is dumb.

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                            • Applejack
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3812

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                              Current system works great. We have become a nation of babies where changing a couple of clocks two times per year is a huge hardship.
                              Said like a man that doesn't have young children

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                              • Scott R Nelson
                                UofU/BYU mixed marriage
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 1508

                                #90
                                Here's a very good article on the subject of going to permanent daylight saving time:

                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...t-saving-time/

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