Are we now not allowed to edit our own threads?

[Babs]

First, I was unaware of the functionality and have always opposed to it, as I explained. If I had known it was possible I would have tried to change it immediately.

Second, it is not a board policy, it was a function of the software. The board POLICY, as lebowski explained, is that you can only delete your own post, not an entire thread, so the POLICY has NOT changed, although perhaps the function has disappeared. If it has disappeared, the function is now in line with policy.

That being said, I am sure everyone on the committee would be more than willing to consider your request that it be allowed if there is some reason for it. I personally find a strong reason in favor of the policy I described, but would like to hear why you see it otherwise.

Well, setting aside the myriad scenarios in which an originator might need/want to take down a thread, there's simply no reason not to offer your users the option. The plain truth of the matter is that the users can't hurt the threads anyway. In cases of overzealous deletion, the mods could always restore the deleted threads. So unless there is reason to believe users would use the privilege irresponsibly, there's simply no legitimate reason to withhold the functionality, assuming it exists.

[creekster]

Well, setting aside the myriad scenarios in which an originator might need/want to take down a thread, there's simply no reason not to offer your users the option. The plain truth of the matter is that the users can't hurt the threads anyway. In cases of overzealous deletion, the mods could always restore the deleted threads. So unless there is reason to believe users would use the privilege irresponsibly, there's simply no legitimate reason to withhold the functionality, assuming it exists.

I beg to disagree, oh wise one, if you will climb down from your absolutist pinacle for a moment and consider another opinion:

it encourages epoepl to be responsible in what they start a thread about, to avoid stating somethign too personal, too embarrassing or too stupid. I want to see the baord govern itself, i dont want to have to worry about goign around and restoring a thread becasue somebody decided they really regretted starting a certain thread.

To be clear, this is just me speaking, I am only one member of the committee, and there is no indication that the majority of the committee necessariyl agrees wiht me. I know for a fact that some of them don't.

[Babs]

I beg to disagree, oh wise one, if you will climb down from your absolutist pinacle for a moment and consider another opinion:

it encourages epoepl to be responsible in what they start a thread about, to avoid stating somethign too personal, too embarrassing or too stupid. I want to see the baord govern itself, i dont want to have to worry about goign around and restoring a thread becasue somebody decided they really regretted starting a certain thread.

Wow. That's quite an opinion you have of your average user.

[creekster]

Wow. That's quite an opinion you have of your average user.

Its really the below average ones I am talking about, but yes, in general, I think this tends to make us ssave us from ourselves.

[Babs]

Its really the below average ones I am talking about, but yes, in general, I think this tends to make us ssave us from ourselves.

You realize that if there's anything we take away from this thread it's that the users were *already* operating under the assumption that this functionality existed? You really think that making that the case is going to make that much of a difference on the board?

[creekster]

You realize that if there's anything we take away from this thread it's that the users were *already* operating under the assumption that this functionality existed?

If that's all people manage to get out of this thread, then my opinion of the average user may be too high.

I think whether or not this function existed is a real question. But it does not exist now and I am merely saying why I think that is the proper status. If anyone has a problem with something they posted and want ti deleted, they should let a mod know. But the easiest solution for that situation is to avoid posting it in the first place.

Again, just my solo opinion, YMMV.

[Donuthole]

You realize that if there's anything we take away from this thread it's that the users were *already* operating under the assumption that this functionality existed?

Which users? Many of us didn't operate under the assumption that the ability to delete an entire thread existed, including myself. Maybe those who came from CG were, but those of us who came from CB certainly aren't used to having that ability.

[TripletDaddy]

where is cowboy. he can clear all of this up right away.

Up until maybe 2 weeks ago (or less), if you started a thread, you could go to thread tools and click on an option to delete the entire thread. I know this for a fact.

Today, that functionality is now gone, at least via the thread tools drop down menu.

[beelzebabette]

where is cowboy. he can clear all of this up right away.

Up until maybe 2 weeks ago (or less), if you started a thread, you could go to thread tools and click on an option to delete the entire thread. I know this for a fact.

Today, that functionality is now gone, at least via the thread tools drop down menu.

A grand conspiracy is afoot. Now you just need to figure what one person in this thread is lying to you. Denver Bronco Crocs mail-ordered to your front door is your prize, if successful.

[UtahDan]

where is cowboy. he can clear all of this up right away.

Up until maybe 2 weeks ago (or less), if you started a thread, you could go to thread tools and click on an option to delete the entire thread. I know this for a fact.

Today, that functionality is now gone, at least via the thread tools drop down menu.

Why is anyone stuck on this? I believe you. I also believe JL and creek that they didn't touch it, at least intentionally (which does leave pelagius who is suspiciously silent, hmm......). I'm pretty sure that is admin setting, not a mod setting.

I think the question is whether we should. Let me ask you, in light of he idea expressed here that the contributions of others in a thread are sort of the "intellectual property" of both the author and the community, is there something insufficient about you just deleting your own post and asking a mod to kill any quoted material? I don't have a position here, I'm just trying to understand your practical concern. There may well be.

[Pheidippides]

where is cowboy. he can clear all of this up right away.

Up until maybe 2 weeks ago (or less), if you started a thread, you could go to thread tools and click on an option to delete the entire thread. I know this for a fact.

Today, that functionality is now gone, at least via the thread tools drop down menu.

Next thing you know, somebody is going to start changing your avatar and banning you at random.

[Babs]

Why is anyone stuck on this? I believe you. I also believe JL and creek that they didn't touch it, at least intentionally (which does leave pelagius who is suspiciously silent, hmm......). I'm pretty sure that is admin setting, not a mod setting.

I think the question is whether we should. Let me ask you, in light of he idea expressed here that the contributions of others in a thread are sort of the "intellectual property" of both the author and the community, is there something insufficient about you just deleting your own post and asking a mod to kill any quoted material?

fwiw, we can't delete our own post.

[Babs]

Next thing you know, somebody is going to start changing your avatar and banning you at random.

hey!! you stay out of this! don't you have a supermarathon to run or a mirror to gaze into or something?

[pelagius]

My understanding has always been the following :

A normal user cannot delete a thread they started in all fora except the speakeasy. A user can (and I believe still should be able to) delete threads they started in the speakeasy.

I didn't change anything and given what JL said I suspect this is still the case.

[Babs]

My understanding has always been the following :

A normal user can delete a thread he started in no forum but the speakeasy.

you're a genius! Thank you for explaining the discrepancy.