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  • #31
    Originally posted by jay santos View Post
    I'd be curious to know the actuals on this. I read an article about how huge ESPN's Thursday night games were getting. There was a game a year or two ago that beat all of the non-BCS bowl games in TV ratings with a 6 or something. My gut is that a Tuesday night ESPN game would double a VS Saturday afternoon game.
    I've been looking but I can't find a thing.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by jay santos View Post
      I'd be curious to know the actuals on this. I read an article about how huge ESPN's Thursday night games were getting. There was a game a year or two ago that beat all of the non-BCS bowl games in TV ratings with a 6 or something. My gut is that a Tuesday night ESPN game would double a VS Saturday afternoon game.
      SC lost to Oregon State. That was a Thurs night game. The next day it felt like the entire country was watching that game. Thurs night games don't have the same stigma they used to carry. Real teams play on Thurs nights now. Not as often as Saturdays, but they definitely play on Thurs nights.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        SC lost to Oregon State. That was a Thurs night game. The next day it felt like the entire country was watching that game. Thurs night games don't have the same stigma they used to carry. Real teams play on Thurs nights now. Not as often as Saturdays, but they definitely play on Thurs nights.
        Thursday nights are established as college football nights. Wednesday nights are not.
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        "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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        • #34
          And I really like Thursday games, actually. I wouldn't want more than three in a season, which is why I was really happy with last year's schedule when our two biggest games were Thursday night.

          They have a different atmosphere; I called in sick to work the next day; and best of all, you can spend the entire day watching other games and not worrying about your team.
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          • #35
            CBSCS (CSTV) confuses me and maybe I need to check on that channel some more. But at least through last season, it seemed like CBSCS was too busy broadcasting random Div 3 games between Fargo St. and Cedar Rapids Tech to broadcast MWC games. Is CBSCS only the receiver in that relationship with Comcast? How come they almost never show MWC games? With the MWC playing pretty good football right now, shouldn't this be an opportunity to both promote CBSCS and Versus more right now? Versus seems like it would rather show hillbillies in Kentucky hunting turkeys than football games. I don't get it.
            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
              The conference/the mtn needs to get comcast out of the equation so they can get things done. Currently they own 50% of the contract and manage the station.



              this is hurting the station because comcast won't let them put games online and they are pushing way too hard on getting the mtn on sports tiers with other carriers.

              Not to mention the cost to move the station to HD is something the bastards at comcast dont want to do.

              CSTV gave up ownership in the first place to get on the digital tiers of comcast for a cheaper price. Basically Dave Checketts is a weasel who sold our conferences games to the devil in order make himself a couple extra bucks.
              Is there any background articles on this? I'm curious why CBSCS isn't on basic digital on Comcast.

              Things definitely played out differently than planned. Why isn't CBSCS more prominent?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by beefytee View Post

                Things definitely played out differently than planned. Why isn't CBSCS more prominent?
                Probably because they're too busy showing Div. 3 games instead of real football games. I can't figure out why CBS doesn't try to grow that network a little bit. Viacom has the money to lead an attack against ESPN. ESPN's overproduced schtick has grown a little tired and it seems like someone could take a bite out of that network. CNNSI tried but they didn't broadcast any sports themselves, just news and highlights and ESPNEWS isn't the draw ESPN is.

                Look what TNT has been able to do with the NBA. It's by far the best NBA show and it makes ESPN look like The MTN in comparison.

                By the way, TBS/TNT were broadcasting college games a few years ago and they seemed to do a pretty good job. Why did they stop?
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                  By the way, TBS/TNT were broadcasting college games a few years ago and they seemed to do a pretty good job. Why did they stop?
                  My guess would be that CBS offered the SEC more money to televise the games.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                    By the way, TBS/TNT were broadcasting college games a few years ago and they seemed to do a pretty good job. Why did they stop?
                    TBS was sub-contrated out to do BIG 12 and Pac-10 games from FSN, IIRC.

                    Versus has seemed to picked up the Pac-10 games the last few years.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by beefytee View Post
                      Is there any background articles on this? I'm curious why CBSCS isn't on basic digital on Comcast.

                      Things definitely played out differently than planned. Why isn't CBSCS more prominent?
                      Here is the press release

                      The mtn. will be available to cable and satellite providers throughout the nation. Comcast and CSTV each own 50% of the network, which will be managed by Comcast. Additionally, CSTV will be added to Comcast's digital basic systems in Utah, Colorado, and New Mexico.
                      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                        CBSCS (CSTV) confuses me and maybe I need to check on that channel some more. But at least through last season, it seemed like CBSCS was too busy broadcasting random Div 3 games between Fargo St. and Cedar Rapids Tech to broadcast MWC games. Is CBSCS only the receiver in that relationship with Comcast? How come they almost never show MWC games? With the MWC playing pretty good football right now, shouldn't this be an opportunity to both promote CBSCS and Versus more right now? Versus seems like it would rather show hillbillies in Kentucky hunting turkeys than football games. I don't get it.

                        There was a time when they would blame it on trying to get the Mtn. picked. They put all the games there and said, if you want MWC football you have to pick up the Mtn. Now that the Mtn. is basically available, they are not using this excuse anymore, so who knows what the reason is.

                        Another question, why does no one want to compete with ESPN? A lot of their shows are becoming unwatchable, and the only one that seems willing to compete with them is the NFL network, and they have won me over for NFL wrap ups and stuff. I don't even turn to ESPN for NFL stuff anymore. I really wish someone would step up to knock them off their pedestal.

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