I don't see a single thread on PAC-10 expansion...

[TripletDaddy]

Just imagine the geographic diversity and recruiting opportunities if the Pac-10 were to add Syracuse. It's a wonder the conference didn't scoop them up years ago.

The Pac 10 should add Manchester United. It would dominate UK recruiting. And the natural geographic pair would be Chelsea. Plus, Chelsea has a good academic reputation.

[Babs]

Adding TCU would be ridiculous. It adds no TVs. It adds no fans. It would dilute recruits. It's just a no win situation for the Big XII. Get rid of Baylor and add TCU - that's not a bad idea. But adding a 5th BCS team to a fixed area only dilutes the recruiting for everyone else...

TCU was supposed to be in the Big 12 to begin with. Baylor was subbed last-minute.

[Babs]

The Pac 10 should add Manchester United. It would dominate UK recruiting. And the natural geographic pair would be Chelsea. Plus, Chelsea has a good academic reputation.

Absolutely. Oxford and Cambridge. The possibilities are endless. I hear Brazil's got a solid football team.

[Fiyero]

I came across a blog last summer that examined Pac 10 expansion, and they make reasonable points:

Part 1: Introduction

Part 2: Gridiron

Part 3: Academics, Other Athletics and TV Markets

Part 4: Scheduling Issues

The conclusion was to add Utah and Colorado.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

What's changed is the MWC getting a share of the BCS bonanza. If BSU were to join the MWC, it would be a 100% lock for the BCS. And the BCS will NEVER be able to get rid of a member. N E V E R. The Big(L)East would have them in court in a second, and court is the one place that the BCS cannot afford to go. There's a good chance that the BCS doesn't survive court. As in, it ceases to exist, not that it simply loses a case...

So, threaten the PAC10 Presidents with a ~15% reduction in their BCS revenues, and apparently they're willing to talk. THAT is what has changed...

The P10 has gotten 2 teams into the BCS once I believe 2000, OSU and UDub. So what pie would they be missing out on exactly?

[Shaka]

i guaranfreakingtee you that if and when the PAC 10 considers expansion BYU will be in the mix. BYU has a large fanbase that has major concentrations in several PAC 10 cities. Also when considering TV markets BYU has a larger fanbase in Utah than the UofU and it extends into Idaho and Wyoming.

It will come down to money folks.

[Mormon Red Death]

i guaranfreakingtee you that if and when the PAC 10 considers expansion BYU will be in the mix. BYU has a large fanbase that has major concentrations in several PAC 10 cities. Also when considering TV markets BYU has a larger fanbase in Utah than the UofU and it extends into Idaho and Wyoming.

It will come down to money folks.

the pac-10 hates byu ... no chance in hell they will be in the pac-10

[Shaka]

the pac-10 hates byu ... no chance in hell they will be in the pac-10

Do you care to elaborate? Again follow the money.

[Fiyero]

Do you care to elaborate?

Are you kidding? That's like someone saying "Limbaugh and Hannity dislike Obama" and then you ask for a link.

[statman]

i guaranfreakingtee you that if and when the PAC 10 considers expansion BYU will be in the mix. BYU has a large fanbase that has major concentrations in several PAC 10 cities. Also when considering TV markets BYU has a larger fanbase in Utah than the UofU and it extends into Idaho and Wyoming.

It will come down to money folks.

But adding BYU and Utah chases the same money twice. Adding Utah & Colorado means more money. BYU & Colorado would be better from a pure money standpoint, but I actually believe that the philosophical differences between BYU & the PAC-10m coupled with the fact that BYU is not a research institution in the way that all PAC-10 schools are would cause a problem.

[Mormon Red Death]

an interesting idea from a udub blog

Another point of discussion is playing an annual game in Asia, with Japan probably being the primary target. The NFL has been playing international preseason games, and travel does take a toll. Therefore, if the Pac Ten does go to Asia, look for it to be a season opener with an NCAA exemption to play the game in late August. Therefore, no matter where the calendar falls so each team is certain of a bye-week after the event.

[SeattleUte]

Are you kidding? That's like someone saying "Limbaugh and Hannity dislike Obama" and then you ask for a link.

LOL. This makes up for a lot of your past misdeeds.

[Shaka]

But adding BYU and Utah chases the same money twice. Adding Utah & Colorado means more money. BYU & Colorado would be better from a pure money standpoint, but I actually believe that the philosophical differences between BYU & the PAC-10m coupled with the fact that BYU is not a research institution in the way that all PAC-10 schools are would cause a problem.

So Colorado has a bigger local TV market. However when you take into account all the BYU fans in AZ and CA the picture starts to change. By taking BYU over Utah you get both markets plus all the BYU fans in AZ and Cali.

[falafel]

I came across a blog last summer that examined Pac 10 expansion, and they make reasonable points:

Part 1: Introduction

Part 2: Gridiron

Part 3: Academics, Other Athletics and TV Markets

Part 4: Scheduling Issues

The conclusion was to add Utah and Colorado.

What? Are you just checking our reading comprehension here? Because I think I've already demonstrated that I can't reed good.

[Babs]

So Colorado has a bigger local TV market. However when you take into account all the BYU fans in AZ and CA the picture starts to change. By taking BYU over Utah you get both markets plus all the BYU fans in AZ and Cali.

Apologies to the Cougar fans, but nobody would take BYU over Utah, or BYU over Colorado. BYU's only hope would be that Colorado (in this scenario) would decline and the Pac-10 would take both BYU and Utah.