Fall Camp Opens for the Utes

[Mormon Red Death]

In addition, Stanford played very little and the picks that were thrown were to Conroy Black and Tyson Clements(!).

I sure hope it's that Utah's second string D is just fantastic.

We're doomed!!!

[Hot Lunch]

In addition, Stanford played very little and the picks that were thrown were to Conroy Black and Tyson Clements(!).

I sure hope it's that Utah's second string D is just fantastic.

From what I understand about Black, he is the real deal though.

[Goatnapper'96]

In addition to my blathering above, I would say Utah wins seven games this year on the loooowwww end, nine on the high end. Can Louks or Cain move that to 10? I don't believe so. Can Wynn move that below 7 with his inexperience? I don't believe so.

Therefore, for the record, I am on the side of Jordan Wynn.

At this point, what the hell.

He's got the highest ceiling. On UFN, ColoUte makes a great point. Going with the conservative pick in the past has yielded Lance Rice over Mahana the Eight Cow Quarterback, and Jonathon Crosswhite over Darnell Arceneaux. There ain't anybody out there giddy about Terrence Cain's upside.

In addition, even the best coaches don't get these kinds of decisions right on their own. For various reasons, Saint Urb went with Mahana over Alex Smith in 2003, until the fates stepped in and brought us out of our wandering in the wilderness.

There will be some pain and some cost of going with Wynn, but what the hell. Let's see what happens when we don't pick quarterbacks like Ron McBride did.

I agree with this logic. Go with Wynn. Start him off slow and rely upon Asiata and the defense to win games. Whit has the capital with what happened last year and Utah fans are patient, unless BYU is better. My guess is that Cain won't be appreciably better and more able to win games on his own than Wynn. However, I am totally an upside guy and since I know next to nothing about either as neither has a hired publicist to make me aware of them I am in a position to point out that Wynn has more upside because the alligator mouth wants to eat his number of years of elgibility. So he that going for him, which is nicsheeee.

[Coach McGuirk]

We're doomed!!!

I am just trying to generate some talk here.

[smokymountainrain]

Going with the conservative pick in the past has yielded Lance Rice over Mahana the Eight Cow Quarterback, and Jonathon Crosswhite over Darnell Arceneaux. There ain't anybody out there giddy about Terrence Cain's upside.

I'm not sure I get this logic on either bolded part. I'm not sure how going with Louks is the conservative pick. If anything he is the least conservative pick of the group. The guy can fly and has shown he can make big plays in the run game. Can he get it done through the air? It seems nobody knows. That doesn't sound conservative to me.

Regarding Cain, I keep hearing Whit compare is combination of running and passing ability to Brian Johnson - it would be fair to say Johnson is one of the best QBs in Utah history, right? That sounds fairly giddy to me.

Hell, at the end of the story, Wynn - the hightly touted, traditional dropback passer - might be the most conservative choice.

[Mormon Red Death]

I am just trying to generate some talk here.

I know... sorry to piss on your thread.

[BoylenOver]

I'm not sure I get this logic on either bolded part. I'm not sure how going with Louks is the conservative pick. If anything he is the least conservative pick of the group. The guy can fly and has shown he can make big plays in the run game. Can he get it done through the air? It seems nobody knows. That doesn't sound conservative to me.

Regarding Cain, I keep hearing Whit compare is combination of running and passing ability to Brian Johnson - it would be fair to say Johnson is one of the best QBs in Utah history, right? That sounds fairly giddy to me.

Hell, at the end of the story, Wynn - the hightly touted, traditional dropback passer - might be the most conservative choice.

Louks is the known commodity. Any casual fan wouldn't raise an eyebrow if Louks was named the starter. He's definitely the conservative choice.

[smokymountainrain]

Louks is the known commodity. Any casual fan wouldn't raise an eyebrow if Louks was named the starter. He's definitely the conservative choice.

Known commodity? Isn't a QB's primary job to throw the ball? How many times did he throw it last year?

(edit) just checked - he threw it 7 times last year and has thrown it 15 times in his two years at the U. I'm not sure how a QB who has thrown the ball 15 times in two years could be considered a known commodity. He's a huge risk, in my opinion. A risk that will pay off, mind you, but a risk nonetheless.

[BoylenOver]

Known commodity? Isn't a QB's primary job to throw the ball? How many times did he throw it last year?

Louks has 62 more passes at the D-IA level than Wynn and Cain combined.

[Coach McGuirk]

I know... sorry to piss on your thread.

Ha! definitely not my thread, but I enjoy Ute news almost as much as BYU. After I heard on the radio that Wynn was the standout, albeit one scrimmage, I was sure there would be more talk about that here.

[smokymountainrain]

Louks has 62 more passes at the D-IA level than Wynn and Cain combined.

I must be looking at the wrong stats - because I just saw 8 two years ago and 7 this past season.

[BoylenOver]

I must be looking at the wrong stats - because I just saw 8 two years ago and 7 this past season.

Dammit, I remembered his total snaps, not pass attempts.

Again, still more than Wynn and Cain combined.

[Senioritis]

I'm not sure I get this logic on either bolded part. I'm not sure how going with Louks is the conservative pick. If anything he is the least conservative pick of the group. The guy can fly and has shown he can make big plays in the run game. Can he get it done through the air? It seems nobody knows. That doesn't sound conservative to me.

Regarding Cain, I keep hearing Whit compare is combination of running and passing ability to Brian Johnson - it would be fair to say Johnson is one of the best QBs in Utah history, right? That sounds fairly giddy to me.

Hell, at the end of the story, Wynn - the hightly touted, traditional dropback passer - might be the most conservative choice.

When I say "conservative," I'm talking about what a helluva lot of college coaches value most - experience.

I believe that starting a true freaking freshman over a guy who has been in the program pert near three years is a less conservative choice, regardless of their approach to the position. Call me crazy.

On Cain, he's about the same height as RJ Rice, and he could lead in a stage production of Willow. He's solid, other than that.

[DrumNFeather]

From Facer's blog. Nice.

SUDDEN IMPACT: Freshman quarterback Griff Robles made quite an impression in his first scrimmage with the Utes. After throwing an interception, the former Spanish Fork star leveled linebacker Thor Salanoa with a hard tackle. So hard, in fact, that Salanoa will be sidelined for 12 weeks with a shoulder injury.

Robles continued to show his toughness with a circle drill victory.

"He's a tough guy," Whittingham said.

[DrumNFeather]

Looks like Koa Misi had some kind of back injury yesterday which at this point is being called spasms. It'll be interesting to see if this ends up being a nagging injury for Misi all year.

Anyone have back spasms experience in terms of recovery time?