Max Hall: Overrated?

[Hot Lunch]

I think Unga is the key for the BYU offense this year. If he is down a little on the weight and healthy,

He is. I think Harvey started the season right around 250 last year. That is to large for your every down back. Harvey has trimmed up this year and is in much better shape.

[cougjunkie]

If anything Hall is underrated by BYU fans. Everyone seems to overlook like HL said his 21-5 record as a starter, 7900 passing yards, 66 total tds and only 24 ints, while completing 65% of his passes.

He is also 2-2 against Utah and TCU. He has a legit shot to win 30 games as a starter in his career.

Also on a side note Jan Jorgensen has a chance to win 40+ games as a starter for BYU, that is pretty damn impressive.

[Jarid in Cedar]

I think Hall is who he is. He is an excellent QB in a system that fits his talents well. The fact that he underperformed under the brightest lights last year should not change this fact. He has some flaws that will hurt him at times and others he can cmpensate for them.

I do think that if he comes out and struggles against OU and FSU, there will be some real pressure on him and it will be interesting to see if he starts pressing and forcing the issue again.

[Hot Lunch]

If you look at those games you'll notice a key element. Max was actually looking off receivers in '07. His main problem last year was that he thought he could do anything he wanted and all he wanted to do was throw the ball to Collie.

Collie is a big loss but I think for Max's development as a quarterback it is a good thing that Collie is gone. Collie had a big influence on on how Max distributed the ball in more ways than one.

[Commando]

Any word on Ashworth? Is he staying?

why wouldn't Ashworth stay?

[BlueHair]

why wouldn't Ashworth stay?

He left the church.

[CJF]

why wouldn't Ashworth stay?

He was possibly looking to transfer.

[Commando]

that would be dumb. He's going to get more reps than last year unless he thinks that McKay AND Chambers are head and shoulders above him.

[RockyBalboa]

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[CJF]

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He took his advice and is now going at it with the masses on CB.

[Viking]

He took his advice and is now going at it with the masses on CB.

No success in WR talent can compensate for failure to look off receivers.

[Katy Lied]

His main problem last year was that he thought he could do anything he wanted and all he wanted to do was throw the ball to Collie. If Hall wants to improve his game he'll spread the ball around and make sure to look off his favorite receivers.

I think for Max's development as a quarterback it is a good thing that Collie is gone.

I think we will get an opportunity to see how Max progresses in this area before the start of the season.

In the offseason, when Beck wanted to get some guys out to practice, he'd call 30-40 players and invite them out. You could see this late in the season when he'd toss some beautiful no-look completions to Zac Collie and other minor receivers.

I've been told that in the (last) offseason, when Hall wanted get some guys out to practice, he'd call 3-4 players and invite them out. His wife socializes with their wives, it's all very cliqueish to me. The guys in his closeknit group may live a higher law than the rest, but he needs a little more outreach to the rest of the team.

This striving for perfection within a closeknit group of completely dedicated players may have worked for him when he was the scout team QB, or even the backup QB, but he needs to lead the entire team now.

I'd be interested in seeing how Hall's informal practice sessions have changed this summer, compared to what he's done before. I bet as he practices, so he will play.

[DU Ute]

I think we will get an opportunity to see how Max progresses in this area before the start of the season.

In the offseason, when Beck wanted to get some guys out to practice, he'd call 30-40 players and invite them out. You could see this late in the season when he'd toss some beautiful no-look completions to Zac Collie and other minor receivers.

I've been told that in the (last) offseason, when Hall wanted get some guys out to practice, he'd call 3-4 players and invite them out. His wife socializes with their wives, it's all very cliqueish to me. The guys in his closeknit group may live a higher law than the rest, but he needs a little more outreach to the rest of the team.

This striving for perfection within a closeknit group of completely dedicated players may have worked for him when he was the scout team QB, or even the backup QB, but he needs to lead the entire team now.

I'd be interested in seeing how Hall's informal practice sessions have changed this summer, compared to what he's done before. I bet as he practices, so he will play.

The idea that the 2009 season of BYU football could be brought down by a cliquish Mormon wife club appeals to me greatly.

[DrumNFeather]

Hell be the best QB in the MWC by a mile this year...although Dalton made great strides from his Freshmen to Sophmore season and Clayton is intriguing.

[LA Ute]

I'm ready to what Max can do. (Some on this thread seem to think he already has shown us. Aren't we football fans great?)

Kidding aside, I am sure Max is eager to show that he can win big games against big-time competition. He has a chance to do so this season. His destiny is in his own hands.

I remember that going into his senior year, I had some questions about Brian Johnson's ability to lead, stay cool, and win the big ones. A lot can change between a junior and senior year. (I do hope for a similar result in the rivalry game, however . . . .)