Why does BYU struggle on the big stage?

[All-American]

What is Utah's biggest win ever?

[SeattleUte]

What is Utah's biggest win ever?

Many would disagree with me, but I think the 2004 Fiesta Bowl win was the most important win ever by any measure.

What was BYU's? Interesting question.

[il Padrino Ute]

What is Utah's biggest win ever?

The Fiesta Bowl. It was the biggest stage the Utes had ever played on in football.

Perhaps this year's bowl game will be bigger, should the Utes win.

[TripletDaddy]

Many would disagree with me, but I think the 2004 Fiesta Bowl win was the most important win ever by any measure.

What was BYU's? Interesting question.

If you go by net result, then beating Michigan to win the NC would be the biggest win.

If you go by media buzz, beating #1 Miami would be the biggest win.

What is the highest ranked opponent each team has beaten? Besides Miami, how many other top 10 teams has BYU beaten? Top 10 at the time of the game? What about Utah? I dont know off the top of my head.

[Goatnapper'96]

If you go by net result, then beating Michigan to win the NC would be the biggest win.

If you go by media buzz, beating #1 Miami would be the biggest win.

What is the highest ranked opponent each team has beaten? Besides Miami, how many other top 10 teams has BYU beaten? Top 10 at the time of the game? What about Utah? I dont know off the top of my head.

I think the highest team ranking at the end of the year either team that Utah has beaten was BYU either this year or 1994.

BYU it would be either Miami in 1990 or Kansas State in 1996. Kansas State in 1996 is the highest ranked bowl opponent either team has beaten. I think Arizona is the only team Utah beat in a bowl that finished ranked. BYU has beaten SMU, Colorado and Kansas State in bowl games where the teams finished ranked in those respective seasons.

[TripletDaddy]

I think the highest team ranking at the end of the year either team that Utah has beaten was BYU either this year or 1994.

BYU it would be either Miami in 1990 or Kansas State in 1996. Kansas State in 1996 is the highest ranked bowl opponent either team has beaten. I think Arizona is the only team Utah beat in a bowl that finished ranked. BYU has beaten SMU, Colorado and Kansas State in bowl games where the teams finished ranked in those respective seasons.

What about the ranking at the time the game was played?

I remember my uncle (a Ute grad) was so excited several years ago because Utah beat Oregon in SLC. He said it was one of the biggests wins in the school's football history at the time. I kind of felt bad if that were true.

Ute fans on the board, what is the highest ranked team the Utes have played and beaten? I am talking about the rank at the time the game was played?

[il Padrino Ute]

What about the ranking at the time the game was played?

I remember my uncle (a Ute grad) was so excited several years ago because Utah beat Oregon in SLC. He said it was one of the biggests wins in the school's football history at the time. I kind of felt bad if that were true.

Ute fans on the board, what is the highest ranked team the Utes have played and beaten? I am talking about the rank at the time the game was played?

I honestly don't know. I really only follow the Utes ranking.

If I had to guess, I would say Colorado State back in the '94 season, when the Utes and CSU were both undefeated at the time and IIRC, both were in the Top 10.

Do you remember what year the Utah/Oregon game was your uncle is referencing? I remember when the Utes beat Oregon in Eugene when the Ducks ended up in the Rose Bowl. '94 I believe it was.

The only time I remember the Utes beating Oregon in SLC was in '03, Meyer's first year.

[Goatnapper'96]

What about the ranking at the time the game was played?

I remember my uncle (a Ute grad) was so excited several years ago because Utah beat Oregon in SLC. He said it was one of the biggests wins in the school's football history at the time. I kind of felt bad if that were true.

Ute fans on the board, what is the highest ranked team the Utes have played and beaten? I am talking about the rank at the time the game was played?

I don't think Oregon was ranked in 2003 when Utah beat them if so it was in the 20's. My gut instinct is Utah's biggest win over a ranked opponent was either AZ in the 1994 Copper Bowl or TCU this past year. Maybee GT in 2005. I think Southern Miss was ranked like 19 when Utah thumped them in the Liberty Bowl in 2003 as well.

BYU's biggest win over a team ranked at that time was #1 Miami, or perhaps #3 Pitt, or #7 Arizona State or maybee #3 Air Force. However, only Miami and Air Force finished the year ranked.

[Goatnapper'96]

I honestly don't know. I really only follow the Utes ranking.

If I had to guess, I would say Colorado State back in the '94 season, when the Utes and CSU were both undefeated at the time and IIRC, both were in the Top 10.

I forgot about that game, I think CSU was #10 or 7..or something like that. That is probably the Ute's biggest win over a ranked opponent.

[il Padrino Ute]

I don't think Oregon was ranked in 2003 when Utah beat them if so it was in the 20's. My gut instinct is Utah's biggest win over a ranked opponent was either AZ in the 1994 Copper Bowl or TCU this past year. Maybee GT in 2005. I think Southern Miss was ranked like 19 when Utah thumped them in the Liberty Bowl in 2003 as well.

BYU's biggest win over a team ranked at that time was #1 Miami, or perhaps #3 Pitt, or #7 Arizona State or maybee #3 Air Force. However, only Miami and Air Force finished the year ranked.

I'm not sure what Arizona was ranked when the Utes played them in the Freedom Bowl. I just know that it was against the Desert Swarm defense.

[il Padrino Ute]

I forgot about that game, I think CSU was #10 or 7..or something like that. That is probably the Ute's biggest win over a ranked opponent.

I think CSU was #7 and Utah was #8 when they played.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Serious question: Why is BYU sports so provincial? This is not a troll. It's a serious question.

BYU has had stretches of domination or dynasty in both the big DI team sports. You could make a case that BYU's basketball tradition is slightly better than utah's if you ignored post-season play. Utah's rising to BCS heights and stellar bowl and vs. top 25 record gives BYU's football tradition a run.


What's the matter with BYU? What are the physiological, psycoligical and societal factors that make for BYU's chronic failures on the big stage?

Bump.

I have thought about this a decent amount since you posted it and it is really strange. Recently a friend of mine was talking to me about how everyone is gunning so hard for the Celtics and Lakers in the NBA this year that every game has a playoff feel to it, and by doing that it just makes those two teams so much more likely to be ready mentally for the playoffs.

As BYU fans we often suggest that we are every team's rival, that everyone gets up for us. Yet it does not correlate into us being more prepared and mentally tough come tourney/bowl time.

I would like to use the mission excuse, that one loses a competitive edge after serving a mission, but I think that is garbage.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I honestly don't know. I really only follow the Utes ranking.

Do you remember what year the Utah/Oregon game was your uncle is referencing? I remember when the Utes beat Oregon in Eugene when the Ducks ended up in the Rose Bowl. '94 I believe it was.

The only time I remember the Utes beating Oregon in SLC was in '03, Meyer's first year.

It was in 03 and Oregon was ranked 19.
http://www.goducks.com/SportSelect.d...&Q_SEASON=2003

[Mormon Red Death]

I think the highest team ranking at the end of the year either team that Utah has beaten was BYU either this year or 1994.

BYU it would be either Miami in 1990 or Kansas State in 1996. Kansas State in 1996 is the highest ranked bowl opponent either team has beaten. I think Arizona is the only team Utah beat in a bowl that finished ranked. BYU has beaten SMU, Colorado and Kansas State in bowl games where the teams finished ranked in those respective seasons.

I think 1994 when Utah beat Colo St I believe they were 6th at the time

[SeattleUte]

Bump.

Some things never change.