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Originally posted by Shaka
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Agreed. I think he did a decent job. Not sure I will ever forgive him for all those Utah losses though."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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I kind of think that following Crowton was part of the transition too.Originally posted by Shaka View PostComment
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Dangit - too quick on the post!
I wanted to say...
I think there was something about the transition from Crowton that led to Bronco being Bronco. I don't think he was micromanaged. But I would be surprised if there wasn't some discussion about the plethora of honor code issues - particularly the "gang rape" allegations that popped up - as part of that. I can only imagine that image and missionary tool were brought into it, and a discussion of how BYU is perceived is important.
From that, I think Bronco probably took his lead and came up with the rest himself.
Like involving all of the business/culture people in some of his early planning as far as "program building". I also think that Bronco saw that some of what he did as a DC led to some finger pointing and a lack of team unity between defense and offense, and decided that as the HC he was responsible to fix that and bring the team together.
So, I guess I'm saying that Bronco is a bit of a weird duck. He's been that from the moment he arrived on campus. But I also believe that some of what came immediately before him drove the planning and decision making that got him where he was as BYU's head coach.
I still think he's a good coach and could be good for Virginia. I'm not sure what they expected in year one. They've been a bad program. They hired a decent coach, not Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. And while they may have some talent at certain positions - from everything I've heard and seen, they were lacking plenty of talent too.
Still going to have to see how Bronco is as a recruiter when he isn't working the LDS angle. But I'll be surprised if he isn't still working the "building men" angle. I think he's taken that on whole hog.Comment
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I would love to have Bronco on the staff as a DC. He is fantastic with that."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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He has done a very remarkable job in that department, but do you believe he would be able to improve upon what we currently have or work with the current personnel? (I know this won't happen).Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.Comment
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I appreciate what Bronco did. He resurrected a program that was headed nowhere fast.
I think Bronco himself understood a few seasons before he left that he wasn't going to accomplish much more at BYU and that he should look for opportunities elsewhere, which was reflected in his performance. That is why I was glad to see him off.Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.
"Cog dis is a bitch." -James PattersonComment
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Um, Bronco as a defensive coordinator under Crowton was dramatically different than Bronco as a head coach. Not just pre-BYU. There was a shift, a dramatic one at that. Crowton's last year there was absolutely a divide among the team, and unintentionally I think Bronco perpetuated it. He worked his guys like crazy. The defense for the most part hated the offense (my take, the D felt like they were working harder than the O and resented them for it). One of the first things as a head coach that Bronco did was tear down the division that he'd help create (again, don't think it was an intentional move to create the division, but IMO it was there). When he go the job, whether Bronco was told or Bronco outlined the unique position of BYU leveraging the ability of the church in his interview, I do think that Bronco felt that was his role and responsibility. Again, whether or not it was mandated (I don't think so) or it was interpreted that way by Bronco (this is where I personally fall) he felt that was the way he needed to run the program. It also didn't help/hurt that the turning point his first season was after having a Fireside the night before in New Mexico in his old stomping grounds. You know how coaches are, something works and you're not going to mess with success...Originally posted by Shaka View Post
In a lot of ways, Bronco is a fish out of water as a head coach. What made Bronco successful as a player and extremely successful as a coordinator is his ability to out work, to grind. I think he values that over other things (let's say talent, for one) because talent isn't what got Bronco where he is at. It was his drive. It's why Bronco doesn't connect with high level recruits. It's why he so often played guys who gave effort over guys who were more talented or had more ability. His effort mentality doesn't translate very well to the media. He'd rather work than talk about it.
Bronco should be appreciated for what he did at BYU. He was very successful. It appears it was probably the right time for him to move on. His effort, and I have no doubt he gave everything he had to BYU, but it was time for a change.Comment
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Go over to CB and have a look around. There are many there who whine like crazy. With some he's an obsession.Originally posted by falafel View Post
When it's all said and done Bronco winning percentage was on par with LaVell's. While, like Lebowski, I wish he'd have had a better record against Utah I understand there are reasons why we started having trouble with the rivalry.Comment
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This is what I think as well. I liked Bronco but he rubbed me wrong in some, immaterial ways.Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk"Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. UchtdorfComment
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Your superfluous comma rubs me wrong in a material way. Who do you think you are? AV?Originally posted by Moliere View PostPrepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss
There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach FinstockComment
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Please don't used the phrase "allegations" in regards to the gang rape. Read "The System" and you will see that it wasn't an allegation. It happened.Originally posted by Eddie View PostComment
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Bronco was great!!!Comment
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Virginia up 14-7 after one quarter at No. 3 Miami."What are you prepared to do?" - Jimmy Malone
"What choice?" - Abe PetrovskyComment
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Bronco may finally beat the UGive 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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