"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated" - The Rivalry Thread

[Jarid in Cedar]

I am going to say this as gently and kindly as I can:

Funk stop using drugs.

Scalley would be a very good Defensive Coordinator anywhere that he would have taken a job. He is meticulous. He pays attention to small details. And he is a fantastic recruiter. He has been an assistant coach for 8 years and was a player for 4 years in a successful system. Continuing his mentor-ship with Whittingham gives him a chance to be a great coordinator.

As far as the DC simply being Whitt's puppet, this season is slam dunk case evidence that the DC has autonomy to run and call the defense as they see fit. Utah's defense will always have Fred Whittingham's signature on it: A base four man front that primarily plays man to man coverage. But that is where the similarities between the defenses of Sitake and Pease end.

Sitake was a blitz heavy scheme that depended on chaos to be successful. He did not play much zone, and when he did, it wasn't very successful. His defense led to more sacks, but sacrificed that by giving up more long pass plays, and giving up big run plays when the blitz didn't get home. It also led to fewer interceptions as well.

Pease focused on gap control with the D-line staying in their lanes. Using the blitz about 70% less than Sitake. On the back end, he focused more on mixing and disguising coverage, and Utah played much less man and more and more complicated zone coverages. This philosophy led to fewer sacks, more interceptions, and a dramatically improved run defense (6th Nationally vs 61st nationally in 2014).

Scalley will be given the leeway to direct and call the defense as he sees fit. Just as Anderson, Sitake, and Pease were given the leeway to lead it based on their personal philosophies.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Of course he did.

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Of course this wouldn't be the first or last time that Talo makes shit up. Williams would have to receive an exception(that was ok'ed by BYU) in order to play at any D1 school besides BYU in 2016.

NCAA rules state that a player must sit out a year while enrolled at his new school before he can play. Williams simply sitting out this season doesn't count. The exception of a graduate transfer would apply, but I haven't heard anything saying that Williams had a degree in hand.

If Williams was to transfer, he would have to sit out during his last year of eligibility. IOW, his only choice to play anywhere besides BYU in 2016 would be to drop down a division.

Check the "Transfer Toolbox" links at the bottom of this NCAA webpage:

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/current/want-transfer

[Applejack]

1. Scalley is great. There should be no question about that. He's in the catbird seat (?) for post-Whitt head coach at utah.
2. I hope Whittingham went after Williams. He's great and we could use him next year. I don't know anything about NCAA transfer rules, but he's a good football player.
3. The Utes beat BYU for the fifth straight time.

[Omaha 680]

3. The Utes beat BYU for the fifth straight time.

Yeah, but you know...coach leaving, taking staff with him, etc. etc. JIC said we could use this!

[Eddie]

...Utah shouldn't be wasting money hiring an experienced DC. Reallocate those funds to other coaches or Whittingham's salary. Sure Scalley's credentials aren't great, but it doesn't matter.

Maybe they can use that to hire a new OC?

[Applejack]

Yeah, but you know...coach leaving, taking staff with him, etc. etc. JIC said we could use this!

Not to mention an inspiring (though ultimately unsuccessful) comeback in the Vegas Bowl. You can build on this!

[Paperback Writer]

Of course this wouldn't be the first or last time that Talo makes shit up. Williams would have to receive an exception(that was ok'ed by BYU) in order to play at any D1 school besides BYU in 2016.

NCAA rules state that a player must sit out a year while enrolled at his new school before he can play. Williams simply sitting out this season doesn't count. The exception of a graduate transfer would apply, but I haven't heard anything saying that Williams had a degree in hand.

If Williams was to transfer, he would have to sit out during his last year of eligibility. IOW, his only choice to play anywhere besides BYU in 2016 would be to drop down a division.

Check the "Transfer Toolbox" links at the bottom of this NCAA webpage:

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes.../want-transfer

I didn't read where a student had to actually be enrolled while sitting out a year but that is almost always the case. The reason I question it is because of LDS missionaries sitting out a year while serving a mission and then transferring upon their return and not having to sit out any additional time while being enrolled at their new school. Maybe that has changed with the "Riley Nelson rule". But I thought the reason most student athletes enroll at their new college while sitting out a year is so they can integrate with their new team and have access to their facilities.

The NCAA may require you to sit out of competition for a year after transferring to help you adjust to your new school.
Perhaps that sentence implies being enrolled, but it's not certain. Also uses the conditional "may".

[Omaha 680]

Of course this wouldn't be the first or last time that Talo makes shit up. Williams would have to receive an exception(that was ok'ed by BYU) in order to play at any D1 school besides BYU in 2016.

NCAA rules state that a player must sit out a year while enrolled at his new school before he can play. Williams simply sitting out this season doesn't count. The exception of a graduate transfer would apply, but I haven't heard anything saying that Williams had a degree in hand.

If Williams was to transfer, he would have to sit out during his last year of eligibility. IOW, his only choice to play anywhere besides BYU in 2016 would be to drop down a division.

Check the "Transfer Toolbox" links at the bottom of this NCAA webpage:

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes.../want-transfer

What if Talo meant Whittingham went after him after he dropped out of school last year? Transfer to the U and you can be the back "in Booker's absence" i.e. after he graduates.

[SCcoug]

I didn't read where a student had to actually be enrolled while sitting out a year but that is almost always the case. The reason I question it is because of LDS missionaries sitting out a year while serving a mission and then transferring upon their return and not having to sit out any additional time while being enrolled at their new school. Maybe that has changed with the "Riley Nelson rule". But I thought the reason most student athletes enroll at their new college while sitting out a year is so they can integrate with their new team and have access to their facilities.

The NCAA may require you to sit out of competition for a year after transferring to help you adjust to your new school.
Perhaps that sentence implies being enrolled, but it's not certain. Also uses the conditional "may".

There is also a 2 year non-participation exception.

As for Jamaal he withdrew from school in August I imagine any recruiting would have happened then. Bronco has always allowed players to transfer wherever they wanted without restriction. There was much hand wringing at the time that he could transfer.

It shouldn't surprise anyone that Utah would explore that option. Given how little Joe Williams was used this year until Booker's injury obviously Utah isn't sold on him as a feature back next year.

Either way it looks like JW will be playing next year at BYU.

[Shaka]

1. Scalley is great. There should be no question about that. He's in the catbird seat (?) for post-Whitt head coach at utah.

I prefer to think that he is the heir apparent to Sitake at BYU. He will be forced to accept when the job is couched as a calling made directly from President Uchtdorf.

[Blueintheface]

Not to mention an inspiring (though ultimately unsuccessful) comeback in the Vegas Bowl. You can build on this!

Muck foral victories!!!

[Jeff Lebowski]

Of course this wouldn't be the first or last time that Talo makes shit up. Williams would have to receive an exception(that was ok'ed by BYU) in order to play at any D1 school besides BYU in 2016.

NCAA rules state that a player must sit out a year while enrolled at his new school before he can play. Williams simply sitting out this season doesn't count. The exception of a graduate transfer would apply, but I haven't heard anything saying that Williams had a degree in hand.

If Williams was to transfer, he would have to sit out during his last year of eligibility. IOW, his only choice to play anywhere besides BYU in 2016 would be to drop down a division.

Check the "Transfer Toolbox" links at the bottom of this NCAA webpage:

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes.../want-transfer

Very interesting, JiC. Thanks.

So how does this impact that Utah State basketball player that Utah illegally recruited decided to transfer to Utah? USU would not release him so he was not enrolled at Utah last semester, right?

[Green Monstah]

Very interesting, JiC. Thanks.

So how does this impact that Utah State basketball player that Utah illegally recruited decided to transfer to Utah? USU would not release him so he was not enrolled at Utah last semester, right?

I love to curse, so I'm not judging, but I'm pretty sure David Collette is the dude who had just returned from his mission and had a textbook perfect "That's f****** bullsh**" yell on national TV when he was called for a foul late in the BYU game last year at the Spectrum.

[DrumNFeather]

Very interesting, JiC. Thanks.

So how does this impact that Utah State basketball player that Utah illegally recruited decided to transfer to Utah? USU would not release him so he was not enrolled at Utah last semester, right?

He has to pay his own way this year.

[Jeff Lebowski]

He has to pay his own way this year.

But does he have to "sit out" for a year?