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  • I think the better Utah does in basketball, the more it helps BYU basketball.

    I am using football as the barometer for assessment. I think that both Utah and BYU football benefit from each others' success in different ways. Do they compete head-to-head for recruits and for wins? Yes, but I think that in this case a rising tide raises all ships and that an emphasis on sports at the state of Utah's flagship institution as well as at the flagship institution for the LDS Church creates a lot of intangible benefits in talent development from the ground-up in the community. Additionally, it creates more opportunities when the programs are always scrapping it out for local bragging rights. (think about how incestuous the Football coaching staffs are and how much opportunity that creates) Like it or not, we need each other to elevate our overall status as 'wannabe', but 'neverwillbe' blue blood programs.

    Sorry, just being honest.

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    • Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
      And the Utes hire Alex Jensen as their new head coach:

      https://www.ksl.com/article/51261007...ext-head-coach

      I guess they hope he can bring some magic back to that dump they play in. I wonder if this is who Harlan really wanted to hire or if it’s who the boosters forced him to hire?
      Boosters. Harlan is an idiot. Now that the coaching hire is done, fire Harlan's ass.
      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
      --Kendrick Lamar

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      • Originally posted by wally View Post
        I think the better Utah does in basketball, the more it helps BYU basketball.

        I am using football as the barometer for assessment. I think that both Utah and BYU football benefit from each others' success in different ways. Do they compete head-to-head for recruits and for wins? Yes, but I think that in this case a rising tide raises all ships and that an emphasis on sports at the state of Utah's flagship institution as well as at the flagship institution for the LDS Church creates a lot of intangible benefits in talent development from the ground-up in the community. Additionally, it creates more opportunities when the programs are always scrapping it out for local bragging rights. (think about how incestuous the Football coaching staffs are and how much opportunity that creates) Like it or not, we need each other to elevate our overall status as 'wannabe', but 'neverwillbe' blue blood programs.

        Sorry, just being honest.


        We'd be so much better this season if only Utah was any good.

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        • Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

          Also, the Mavs are a sinking ship. Probably a smart time to jump.
          Because of Jensen?
          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
          - Goatnapper'96

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          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post



            We'd be so much better this season if only Utah was any good.
            BYU has a limited hiring pool for coaches. Having LDS kids develop through U of U improves that candidate pool. Sione Pouha and Jay Hill are on your FB coaching staff. Chris Burgess on your BBall coaching staff. BYU directly benefits through NIL on poaching LDS talent at Utah. Seems like you should know this?

            Again, I am sorry if this is hard for you to hear. Just being honest.

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            • Seems like a great hire for the Utes. I read an espn article about it and they said the Utes are trying to follow BYU by hiring someone from the NBA. Sounds about right since the Utes tend to always try to be like BYU.
              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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              • Originally posted by wally View Post

                BYU has a limited hiring pool for coaches. Having LDS kids develop through U of U improves that candidate pool. Sione Pouha and Jay Hill are on your FB coaching staff. Chris Burgess on your BBall coaching staff. BYU directly benefits through NIL on poaching LDS talent at Utah. Seems like you should know this?

                Again, I am sorry if this is hard for you to hear. Just being honest.
                We look forward to Jensen becoming an assistant in a few years.

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                • Congrats Ute fans. Might get 1000 people to a home game next year. That would be cool.
                  "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                  "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                  "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                    We look forward to Jensen becoming an assistant in a few years.
                    I can see how you guys would really want somebody in your program to have Final 4 experience. That would probably mean a lot to you guys.

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Congrats Ute fans. Might get 1000 people to a home game next year. That would be cool.
                      We have nowhere to go but up!

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                      • Originally posted by wally View Post

                        I can see how you guys would really want somebody in your program to have Final 4 experience. That would probably mean a lot to you guys.
                        Hey, I'm a fan! Jensen was awesome. After your fanbase, with an assist from the AD, ruin him, we will pick him up as a reclamation project. Like Judkins before him, we will right his ship. In return, he will help bring us untold NIL dollars from disaffected ALUF rich guys, and assist on our first hoops natty. Afterwhich KY will leave for NBA riches and Jensen will become our new coach.

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                        • "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                          "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                          "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                            Awesome.
                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                            • People on the East Bench are in pain.

                              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                              • I haven't wandered into sports social media in a while but I ended up in Ute-Cougat twitter and yowza. I thought political twitter is a dumpster fire right now.

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