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  • #31
    Originally posted by YOhio View Post
    She thinks you're a big huge whiny baby.
    Well, to be fair, the Utes aren't near as bad as the Republicans.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by YOhio View Post
      She thinks you're a big huge whiny baby.
      Originally posted by babs
      Well, to be fair, the Utes aren't near as bad as the Republicans.
      That's it. I didn't want to bring it back, but you two have forced my hand.

      You're both on the list.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
        Sweet so you are saying I am an All-star? Am I a true All-star or a Mo Williams All-star where someone with real pull just lobbied for me to make the team even though I have average stats?
        You are an All-Star, kind of like Magic Johnson's final All-Star game, where everyone wanted to do something nice for him before he passed away.
        Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
          Do certain D-coordinators have him figured out?
          What was to figure out? I imagine the conversation went something like this:
          DC: "Is Collie on the field?"
          Assistant Coach: "Yes."
          DC: "Put four guys on him."
          AC: "But that'll leave other receivers open!"
          DC: Looks at assistant and raises an eyebrow
          AC: "You're right, what was I thinking." Sends player out with the new plan

          Wrubell: "Max drops back to pass, looking, looking... He has Collie on the sideline and... Pass incomplete, intended for Collie. That was a really hard catch to make with four guys around him."

          Later on the post-game show:
          Wrubell: "Max, great job tonight. You really did a good job of spreading it around. Let's see, two passes to Michael Reed, seven to Pitta, and thirty-one to Collie."
          Not that, sickos.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
            Can we expect more of the same this fall, or is it reasonable to believe he'll get it figured out and have a Beck in 2006-esque season?
            He won't be as strong this year, lingo. He has no OL and no AC.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Babs View Post
              He won't be as strong this year, lingo. He has no OL and no AC.
              I think you are understimating BYU's OL. Go back to 2006 and BYU's OL was very good. BYU lost a 3 year starter in the 2nd game and from that game forward BYU started 2 1st year starting sophs, one soph who started as a freshman, a four year starting senior and one junior who was a JC transfer.

              3 of BYU's starters next year will have every bit as much experience as Bright, Feinga and Aulai from 2006. Reynolds is going to be very good next year as a sophmore and Willing is a solid journeyman OL who started in the dark years of Crowton as a freshman. From a talent perspective I am wary to believe that the new guys will be as talented as naturally talented as Bright and Feinga but I don't think the difference will be huge.

              I think you will be surprised at how well they handle OU. OU will still win the game going away, but I will be surprised if the BYU OL is manhandled. Further, by the time BYU gets to MWC foes I think the OL will acquit itself very well and finish the year as one of the top two or three OLs in the conference. BYU's offense will do well this year. I also think the defense will be better as well. I don't expect it to be as good as 2006 or 2007, but I think we will all be pleasently surprised. A better defense will make the offense look better as it will get more chances to move the ball in more critical locations.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                Mission: Not Accomplished.

                This board is for closers. All-Stars.
                Maybe that is why I always get the cold shoulder. I don't really belong.
                Get confident, stupid
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                  Maybe that is why I always get the cold shoulder. I don't really belong.
                  Don't misinterpret the tone. DDD likely feels threatened that the newcomer showed more wit in one thread than he had in 10,000 trolling posts combined.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by thesaint258 View Post
                    What was to figure out? I imagine the conversation went something like this:
                    DC: "Is Collie on the field?"
                    Assistant Coach: "Yes."
                    DC: "Put four guys on him."
                    AC: "But that'll leave other receivers open!"
                    DC: Looks at assistant and raises an eyebrow
                    AC: "You're right, what was I thinking." Sends player out with the new plan

                    Wrubell: "Max drops back to pass, looking, looking... He has Collie on the sideline and... Pass incomplete, intended for Collie. That was a really hard catch to make with four guys around him."

                    Later on the post-game show:
                    Wrubell: "Max, great job tonight. You really did a good job of spreading it around. Let's see, two passes to Michael Reed, seven to Pitta, and thirty-one to Collie."
                    Okay, so three teams figured this out and the rest were too stupid? Hall torched everyone but TCU, Utah and Arizona.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                      I think you are understimating BYU's OL. Go back to 2006 and BYU's OL was very good. BYU lost a 3 year starter in the 2nd game and from that game forward BYU started 2 1st year starting sophs, one soph who started as a freshman, a four year starting senior and one junior who was a JC transfer.
                      .
                      And Utah Basketball is going to go .500

                      Actually this will be interesting to see. Someone found a stat that indicating total number of starts by an offensive line and victories. I forget what the number is but this past season Utah's O-Line had something like 120 combined starts and will have at least 90 this next year. BYU is returning something like 21 total starts, which doesn't point to the greatest of seasons.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                        Okay, so three teams figured this out and the rest were too stupid? Hall torched everyone but TCU, Utah and Arizona.
                        There's a reason why those teams finished the season ranked 1st, 11th, and 24th in total defense, while the others ranged from 38 to 113 with an average of 80. We can only wonder how Max would have fared against the nation's #3 defense, Alabama. Maybe Oklahoma will be his coming out game.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Fiyero View Post
                          There's a reason why those teams finished the season ranked 1st, 11th, and 24th in total defense, while the others ranged from 38 to 113 with an average of 80. We can only wonder how Max would have fared against the nation's #3 defense, Alabama. Maybe Oklahoma will be his coming out game.
                          Right, that is one of my original scenarios: those three teams were just that much better on defense than the rest of the bunch. Sizzle's answer is that those three teams merely figured out that Hall locked in on Collie, while I guess no one else had the brains to see that.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                            Right, that is one of my original scenarios: those three teams were just that much better on defense than the rest of the bunch. Sizzle's answer is that those three teams merely figured out that Hall locked in on Collie, while I guess no one else had the brains to see that.
                            Stop protraying it like Hall to Collie was the only option on offense.

                            Pitta had the 4th most receptions in a single season in BYU history. Hall didn't just lock in on Collie and Anae designed it such that if a team keyed on Pitta or Collie that would leave the other guy open.

                            Yes, Hall could have done a better job spreading the ball around and not staring down Pitta or Collie, but BYU still had success moving the ball against all three teams they lost to. The problems were with turnovers and scoring.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Indy Coug View Post
                              Stop protraying it like Hall to Collie was the only option on offense.
                              Are you talking to me? I've never argued that.

                              Pitta had the 4th most receptions in a single season in BYU history. Hall didn't just lock in on Collie and Anae designed it such that if a team keyed on Pitta or Collie that would leave the other guy open.

                              Yes, Hall could have done a better job spreading the ball around and not staring down Pitta or Collie, but BYU still had success moving the ball against all three teams they lost to. The problems were with turnovers and scoring.
                              Right, turnovers that came in the form of Hall throwing picks. Two against TCU. Five against Utah. One against Arizona. He threw only 14 interceptions all season, and eight of those come against three teams? Take away those three games and his TD to INT ratio last season is 34 to 6.

                              Are you arguing that there was nothing wrong with Hall during those games?

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by JohnnyLingo View Post
                                Are you talking to me? I've never argued that.



                                Right, turnovers that came in the form of Hall throwing picks. Two against TCU. Five against Utah. One against Arizona. He threw only 14 interceptions all season, and eight of those come against three teams? Take away those three games and his TD to INT ratio last season is 34 to 6.

                                Are you arguing that there was nothing wrong with Hall during those games?
                                IMO, it was a combination of our porous defense putting added pressure on our offense and Hall trying to carry too much of that load and forcing stuff that wasn't there.
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