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  • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
    My uncle, regrettably, is a Utah fan and Crimson Club member. He sent me this letter he received as a Crimson Club member from Dr. Hill regarding the state of Utah athletics. http://files.ctctcdn.com/f6b8d976401...dba8fa3acb.pdf

    I was surprised to read revenue from Utah ticket sales and donations exceeds Utah's TV revenue even though Utah is receiving its full share as a PAC12 member. I assumed with membership in the PAC12, the TV money would be the biggest source of Utah's revenues. Guess not.
    According to the linked article, Utah doesn't receive a full share until the 2015 season.
    "The documents show that while the Pac-12 led the Big Five in revenue, it was third in average distribution to schools -- $19 million. (Eleven schools made $19.8 million. Utah collected only $10.2 million, bringing the average down. The school doesn't get a full share until 2015.)"
    http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ues-to-schools
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    • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
      According to the linked article, Utah doesn't receive a full share until the 2015 season.
      "The documents show that while the Pac-12 led the Big Five in revenue, it was third in average distribution to schools -- $19 million. (Eleven schools made $19.8 million. Utah collected only $10.2 million, bringing the average down. The school doesn't get a full share until 2015.)"
      http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ues-to-schools
      So Dr. Hill is lying when he said Utah received its first full share of revenue last year? Somehow I think CBS is wrong and Dr. Hill isn't that stupid.

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      • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
        My uncle, regrettably, is a Utah fan and Crimson Club member. He sent me this letter he received as a Crimson Club member from Dr. Hill regarding the state of Utah athletics. http://files.ctctcdn.com/f6b8d976401...dba8fa3acb.pdf

        I was surprised to read revenue from Utah ticket sales and donations exceeds Utah's TV revenue even though Utah is receiving its full share as a PAC12 member. I assumed with membership in the PAC12, the TV money would be the biggest source of Utah's revenues. Guess not.
        Interesting. According to this: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/college...distributions/

        Utah received $16M in distributions from the conference (compared to $21M for everyone else...Hmmm).

        But let's just pretend that they did receive $21M, like everyone else. Add the $24.1M they received in donations and ticket sales, and they are still short more than $21M that they have to make up outside of conference distributions and ticket sales/donations. Where do you suppose that is coming from? Broadcast rights for KALL700?

        Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
        According to the linked article, Utah doesn't receive a full share until the 2015 season.
        "The documents show that while the Pac-12 led the Big Five in revenue, it was third in average distribution to schools -- $19 million. (Eleven schools made $19.8 million. Utah collected only $10.2 million, bringing the average down. The school doesn't get a full share until 2015.)"
        http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ues-to-schools
        To be fair - this article is more than a year old. It says that Utah received $10.2M in 2014 and would receive a full share in 2015. They aren't talking about the 2015 football season, their talking about the FY. So the question is, when does the FY end? The State of Utah's FY ends in June 30. When does the PAC 12's FY end? It isn't a stretch to say that the FY15 may have already ended, and they may have already received their distribution. According to my link above, they received $16M for FY14 (which is according to the conference tax filings.) If the FY ends mid-year, then the tax filings could include one-half year of partial share and one-half year of full share.

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        • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
          So Dr. Hill is lying when he said Utah received its first full share of revenue last year? Somehow I think CBS is wrong and Dr. Hill isn't that stupid.
          Eddie somewhat mentioned this already but there is a difference on when revenue is earned and when it is paid. The 2014 article I linked mentioned $10.2M paid in 2014, that would have been for the 2013 football season and a partial share. The $16M paid in 2015 would have been for the 2014 football season and would have been a full share. So Utah started earning full shares for PAC-12 revenue starting with the 2014 football season but would not have received payment until 2015.

          I'm not sure what to make of Dr. Hill's statement of Utah receiving a full share last year (2014). Utah would have earned a full share in 2014 but would not have received payment until this year.

          I could be wrong on this. My point of reference is with Nebraska and it's exit from the Big 12. The rumors of the Huskers exit came when universities were about to receive their TV payouts from the previous season. The Big 12 was threatening to withhold payments to Nebraska and Colorado even though those payments were for games that were played the previous season.
          “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
          "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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          • Michigan's 'cupcake game'...

            Popular Mechanics calls Michigan's game against Utah a 'cupcake game'

            If Utah needed a little extra motivation for the season opener against Michigan, it might have found it in the most unlikely source.


            A calendar section in the most recent edition of Popular Mechanics magazine lists the Sept. 3 Michigan season opener with the note: "College football season gets underway tonight with the University of Michigan in a cupcake game against Utah."



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            http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-...194517294.html

            And then PM sends Utah a box of cupcakes...

            http://www.sltrib.com/home/2884178-1...-utes-cupcakes

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            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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            • Popular Mechanics again showing its ignorance of college football and the size of its teams, sends only 12 cupcakes.
              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

              Dig your own grave, and save!

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              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • This shit pisses me off. Whitt will use this insignificant nerd publication to convince his half-Whitts (see what I did there) that they are being disrespected and it will work. Stupid wankers.
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                • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                  Popular Mechanics again showing its ignorance of college football and the size of its teams, sends only 12 cupcakes.
                  Well, it is the thought that counts.
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                    Well, it is the thought that counts.
                    I that case, I would have just sent one.
                    Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                    Dig your own grave, and save!

                    "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                    "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by falafel View Post
                      I that case, I would have just sent one.
                      That would be too obvious.
                      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                        This shit pisses me off. Whitt will use this insignificant nerd publication to convince his half-Whitts (see what I did there) that they are being disrespected and it will work. Stupid wankers.
                        Nothing like getting the yewts fired-up over being disrespected by a respected football publication like Popular Mechanics. I can just picture KWhitt in a team meeting amping up the yewts by telling them they were just dissed by a bunch of engineers.

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                        • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                          Nothing like getting the yewts fired-up over being disrespected by a respected football publication like Popular Mechanics. I can just picture KWhitt in a team meeting amping up the yewts by telling them they were just dissed by a bunch of engineers.
                          i wish bronco could get our team fired up over meaningless stuff (or even meaningful stuff)
                          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                          • "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                              Nothing like getting the yewts fired-up over being disrespected by a respected football publication like Popular Mechanics. I can just picture KWhitt in a team meeting amping up the yewts by telling them they were just dissed by a bunch of engineers.
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                                This shit pisses me off. Whitt will use this insignificant nerd publication to convince his half-Whitts (see what I did there) that they are being disrespected and it will work. Stupid wankers.
                                It's a great publication!
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                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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