BYU Recruiting 2016

[The_Tick]

Generally, I agree with your premises as stated, but if you look at cougjunkie's liste of eight, most of those shouldn't have been influenced by those factors.

Kalani sold us on his ability to win recruiting battles and in his first full year, they didn't win those battles. Losing Legacy BYU kids or a player across the street from BYU?

Some kids may have a dream of playing someplace other than BYU. You have to respect the individual.

[Topper]

Some kids may have a dream of playing someplace other than BYU. You have to respect the individual.

Eight out of the top eleven? Observing that we didn't sign a bunch of players who should be BYU's to sign is not a sign of not respecting the kids' rights, but a sign that either the hurdles are too big for BYU or that the "recruiters" are not as impressive as we are being led to believe.

[Eddie]

Defensively minded, but Tanner has no receivers whatsoever. No proven RB. We might see a lot of 18 adv. 14 type games, if we can grind out a few points. Gone is the aerial show.

So - maybe I'm missing something - but when was signing day EVER about picking up "proven" WR's and RB's? I thought it was about getting freshmen and JC transfers that may or may not pan out at the next level. Sure - some players you might have higher hopes for than others. But I don't think ANY come in as "proven" players on signing day. Do they?

[Crockett]

Maybe he likes the lifesttyle better at USU and has friends going there. That's why I picked USU over BYU and UCLA, I mean BYU and Utah.

I went to BYU and UCLA so I am a little biased.

[The_Douger]

Defensively minded, but Tanner has no receivers whatsoever. No proven RB. We might see a lot of 18 adv. 14 type games, if we can grind out a few points. Gone is the aerial show.

What a dumb post.

[Topper]

What a dumb post.

Name one he can count on. I know there are some identified on the program, but they were mostly invisible last year. What makes us believe the disappearing or dropsies will be miraculously cured over last year?

Are you substituting for Old Greg? You make a poor substitute.

Last year's receiving corps was abysmal. This year will didn't sign anybody of note, and we lost a few seniors.

[Topper]

So - maybe I'm missing something - but when was signing day EVER about picking up "proven" WR's and RB's? I thought it was about getting freshmen and JC transfers that may or may not pan out at the next level. Sure - some players you might have higher hopes for than others. But I don't think ANY come in as "proven" players on signing day. Do they?

If we don't sign new freshmen to bolster a position, when last year's players don't exhibit any special skill, where is the upgrade?

Because we don't have a Jamaal in the backfield, we should have signed some more talent at RB, and we should have signed some new players at receiver given the horrible results at receiver. We lost some seniors and the younger players did not inspire confidence that they will be the answer next year. That is my argument.

[The_Douger]

Generally, I agree with your premises as stated, but if you look at cougjunkie's liste of eight, most of those shouldn't have been influenced by those factors.

Kalani sold us on his ability to win recruiting battles and in his first full year, they didn't win those battles. Losing Legacy BYU kids or a player across the street from BYU?

Ty Jones didn't want to go to BYU. He committed to Utah and then changed his mind and went to Washington. What are you going to do about that?

[The_Douger]

Name one he can count on. I know there are some identified on the program, but they were mostly invisible last year. What makes us believe the disappearing or dropsies will be miraculously cured over last year?

Are you substituting for Old Greg? You make a poor substitute.

Last year's receiving corps was abysmal. This year will didn't sign anybody of note, and we lost a few seniors.

I think you'll see a big difference in the WRs because the QB will have an entire offseason working with them in this offense that he had a year to work in last year.

There's plenty of talented guys at WR. There were plenty of times these guys were open and Taysom was a half second late in the throw or didn't/wouldn't throw them open or checked down. It's like you don't even watch the games.

The biggest issue for our recruiting is conference affiliation. We would be in play for more of these guys if we got in to the Big 12.

[Topper]

Ty Jones didn't want to go to BYU. He committed to Utah and then changed his mind and went to Washington. What are you going to do about that?

Why in the world is our great fantastic recruiter incapable of swaying a Provo kid from changing his mind? It's not as if Stanford came calling. UW is a very good college, but it isn't Stanford. If he can't sway a local kid across the street, his reputation as a great recruiter may be overstated.

[Topper]

I think you'll see a big difference in the WRs because the QB will have an entire offseason working with them in this offense that he had a year to work in last year.

There's plenty of talented guys at WR. There were plenty of times these guys were open and Taysom was a half second late in the throw or didn't/wouldn't throw them open or checked down. It's like you don't even watch the games.

The biggest issue for our recruiting is conference affiliation. We would be in play for more of these guys if we got in to the Big 12.

There were also many times when these great "receivers" dropped balls. Many times. We haven't seen separation by the receivers and we know we don't have any special speed. Your argument is unconvincing. I hope you are correct, but I am not hopeful you are correct.

[New Mexican Disaster]

Why in the world is our great fantastic recruiter incapable of swaying a Provo kid from changing his mind? It's not as if Stanford came calling. UW is a very good college, but it isn't Stanford. If he can't sway a local kid across the street, his reputation as a great recruiter may be overstated.

You make some points but you don't need to be hyperbolic.

[bluegoose]

Why in the world is our great fantastic recruiter incapable of swaying a Provo kid from changing his mind? It's not as if Stanford came calling. UW is a very good college, but it isn't Stanford. If he can't sway a local kid across the street, his reputation as a great recruiter may be overstated.

Its not hard to see why anyone would choose UW over Stanford, or anyone on the west coast right now. (Hint - football players don't care about University academic reputations)

[Topper]

Its not hard to see why anyone would choose UW over Stanford, or anyone on the west coast right now. (Hint - football players don't care about University academic reputations)

Maybe too many collisions. It is difficult for me to understand why a college student would choose UW over Stanford. UW is very good and if Stanford is not on the table, then I can see why it would be attractive. BYU should be able to beat out UW for a local Utah kid. BYU should almost never beat out Stanford.

[Topper]

You make some points but you don't need to be hyperbolic.

My posts can often be hyperbolic, but that is relatively mild in comparison.