2014 College Football Season

[MartyFunkhouser]

Dennis Dodd's Heisman rankings: 1. Mariota 2. J.T. Barrett 3.Melvin Gordon 4. Amari Cooper 5. Nate Orchard, Utah

That is pretty good for a player that last year wouldn't have even been good enough to be on BYU's Scout team.

[byu71]

Dennis Dodd's Heisman rankings: 1. Mariota 2. J.T. Barrett 3.Melvin Gordon 4. Amari Cooper 5. Nate Orchard, Utah

That is pretty good for a player that last year wouldn't have even been good enough to be on BYU's Scout team.

Is Orchard the QB or RB? Can't remember.

[Maximus]

Dennis Dodd's Heisman rankings: 1. Mariota 2. J.T. Barrett 3.Melvin Gordon 4. Amari Cooper 5. Nate Orchard, Utah

That is pretty good for a player that last year wouldn't have even been good enough to be on BYU's Scout team.

man, even when your team is so much better you still think about what byu fans thought about the team months ago. sad.

[dabrockster]

Interesting article about the Playoff and why Ohio St. Should be #4 team. You may all disagree as usual, but I fin it compelling..

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...XQibCBB4%22%7D

[Jeff Lebowski]

Dennis Dodd's Heisman rankings: 1. Mariota 2. J.T. Barrett 3.Melvin Gordon 4. Amari Cooper 5. Nate Orchard, Utah

That is pretty good for a player that last year wouldn't have even been good enough to be on BYU's Scout team.

Your bitterness is showing.

[wapiti]

It will be my stock answer when someone makes a completely unsupported point about the Pac-12. Vegas thinks the Pac-12 South is loaded. The college football playoff committee thinks the Pac-12 south is load. Sagarin ratings of the South are (16, 18, 20, 24, 34, 92). Masey ratings for the South are (11, 15, 19, 21, 23, 87).

In short, BYU fans trying to beat the drum that the Pac-12, especially the Pac-12 South, isn't that good are doing so out of bitterness and nothing else.

Please list the South Division's quality non-conference wins. TIA

[old_gregg]

Dennis Dodd's Heisman rankings: 1. Mariota 2. J.T. Barrett 3.Melvin Gordon 4. Amari Cooper 5. Nate Orchard, Utah

That is pretty good for a player that last year wouldn't have even been good enough to be on BYU's Scout team.

[smokymountainrain]

Dennis Dodd's Heisman rankings: 1. Mariota 2. J.T. Barrett 3.Melvin Gordon 4. Amari Cooper 5. Nate Orchard, Utah

That is pretty good for a player that last year wouldn't have even been good enough to be on BYU's Scout team.

lol. Dennis Dodd is a moran. Melvin Gordon is on pace for a historically great season for a running back, yet Dodd has him at #3. If Gordon keeps up his current pace, and Barrett wins it, they may as well stop calling it the Heisman and instead re-name it the Ty Detmer Trophy and make the fact that it has turned essentially a quarterback's award, official.

[wapiti]

Interesting article about the Playoff and why Ohio St. Should be #4 team. You may all disagree as usual, but I fin it compelling..

http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/b...XQibCBB4%22%7D

The writer hinges his argument that OSU compares favorably to Oregon because their losses are "similar". Two major problems with that. 1) Arizona is a lot better than Virginia Tech. 2) The B1G is awful so the rest of OSU's schedule has not tested OSU to the extent that Oregon has been tested.

I think the PAC is overrated but it's still a lot better than the B1G.

[Applejack]

Please list the South Division's quality non-conference wins. TIA

Nevada!

[MartyFunkhouser]

The writer hinges his argument that OSU compares favorably to Oregon because their losses are "similar". Two major problems with that. 1) Arizona is a lot better than Virginia Tech. 2) The B1G is awful so the rest of OSU's schedule has not tested OSU to the extent that Oregon has been tested.

I think the PAC is overrated but it's still a lot better than the B1G.

So how would you rank the conferences? I'm interested who, other than the SEC, you really think is better than the Pac-12.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Nevada!

MWC teams are definitely difficult to beat.

[wapiti]

So how would you rank the conferences? I'm interested who, other than the SEC, you really think is better than the Pac-12.

I think the PAC is #3 behind the SEC and Big 12. Obviously the ACC and B1G are a step down. Note that the SEC East is light years ahead of everyone else.

[Eddie]

He pointed out where the committee placed the Pac-12/south teams; SOS is one of the factors the committee analyzes.

They had a guy on the radio this morning talking about how the committee measures strength of schedule. Basically they take your W/L record and add to it the W/L record of everyone you play. They don't count FCS schools unless you lose. Very scientific, no? They were getting a pretty good laugh out of it.

[TripletDaddy]

I like the pac