Good interview with Brandon Doman on 1280 about BYU

[Sizzle]

http://1280thezone.com/index.php/aud...r_preview_show

Talks a lot about overall offensive philosophy (tempo v. execution), how he thinks BYU will use Taysom Hill, etc. It's a little bit long, but it's worth a listen if you need some background noise.

[Sizzle]

Speaking very candidly on Taysom's recruitment early on. Says BYU missed the boat and did a poor job early, recruited him as an Athlete, Stanford recruited him as a QB. When Harbaugh left it really opened the door.

[Vic Vega]

Speaking very candidly on Taysom's recruitment early on. Says BYU missed the boat and did a poor job early, recruited him as an Athlete, Stanford recruited him as a QB. When Harbaugh left it really opened the door.

Thanks for posting this. The discussion of the OLine at the 19 min mark was also very interesting.

[UVACoug]

Speaking very candidly on Taysom's recruitment early on. Says BYU missed the boat and did a poor job early, recruited him as an Athlete, Stanford recruited him as a QB. When Harbaugh left it really opened the door.

They didn't recruit him as a QB because they didn't want Heaps to think he would have to compete with anyone. The Heaps debacle really gutted the QB position. This is the first year we really have a chance of getting back to normal.

[Sizzle]

They didn't recruit him as a QB because they didn't want Heaps to think he would have to compete with anyone. The Heaps debacle really gutted the QB position. This is the first year we really have a chance of getting back to normal.

Which is too bad because they should have been able to see that the issues were with the OL (coach) and not the QB.

Also, BYU chose their bed with Riley in 2011. That's a decision they had to live with, not Heaps.

[fbguru]

Which is too bad because they should have been able to see that the issues were with the OL (coach) and not the QB.

Also, BYU chose their bed with Riley in 2011. That's a decision they had to live with, not Heaps.

That is revisionist history. Heaps really struggled his sophomore year and Riley did inject new energy into the offense. I wish it would have worked out with Heaps, but to put blame on the coach and O-line only is incomplete. Heaps was much to blame for the issues that led to his benching in 2011, and while Nelson had is obvious shortcomings, he still outplayed Jake Heaps that year.

2012 was extremely frustrating because coaches and Nelson both knew he was injured, but kept sending him out anyways. That was the Nelson debacle- 2012, not 2011.

[Indy Coug]

BYU was completely impotent in the run game in 2011 (68 ypg in the 1st 4 games) which put more pressure on Heaps to produce. That's without even taking into account the issues with pass protection and snaps 3 feet too high and 5 feet too wide. Of course Heaps wasn't blameless but the dominoes were set in motion with the OL.

[Harry Tic]

Also, BYU chose their bed with Riley in 2011. That's a decision they had to live with, not Heaps.

I'm not sure what this even means. Are you talking about the benching of Heaps during the Utah State game? Are you suggesting that was the wrong decision? Maybe you're talking about something else. Last season was a debacle for the reasons fbguru mentioned. But 2011 would have been even worse than 2012 had we stayed with Heaps. There's no doubt about that.

But all this has been rehashed ad infinitum. Let's not go there again.

EDIT: if you're referring to the decision to platoon the QBs in 2011, you've got a case. There's never been a better documented mistake in recent BYU FB history. That was a train wreck in slow motion that absolutely everybody except the coaches could see coming.

[The_Douger]

They needed to promise Heaps he'd redshirt last year and that they'd not bring him off it. My understanding is that they weren't willing to do it.

We'll see if Heaps is a different player this year. I don't think he will be.

[wapiti]

EDIT: if you're referring to the decision to platoon the QBs in 2011, you've got a case. There's never been a better documented mistake in recent BYU FB history. That was a train wreck in slow motion that absolutely everybody except the coaches could see coming.

Wasn't the platoon in 2010? Also, I think they should have benched Heaps in the USU game and then still stuck with him in the games there after. The schedule got much easier from that point on. Reilly padded his stats and set the Heaps transfer into motion. I think the coaches read way too much into 2 lucky completions against USU.

[Sizzle]

That is revisionist history. Heaps really struggled his sophomore year and Riley did inject new energy into the offense. I wish it would have worked out with Heaps, but to put blame on the coach and O-line only is incomplete. Heaps was much to blame for the issues that led to his benching in 2011, and while Nelson had is obvious shortcomings, he still outplayed Jake Heaps that year.

I should have said "primarily with the OL and not the QB". Heaps wasn't without blame, but the fact that we couldn't run the ball and couldn't pass protect against decent teams made it so that no matter who was back there, they were going to struggle.

Riley absolutely gave them the higher likelihood to succeed because of his mobility, which was directly tied to the poor OL performance.

[San Juan Sun]

I don't get all of the revisionist history. Heaps was clearly superior by the end of 2010, and was rightfully given the starting job. The offense underwhelmed as a whole in early 2011: Heaps, OL, coaches, everybody. Riley unquestionably won the 2011 USU game, and provided a spark that re-energized the team. At that point in time, most people (and most here) agreed that Riley should get his chance, and he did well enough to deserve the starting job. Then Heaps transfers, the cupboard is bare, and we play a QB with a broken back in arguably the two biggest games of the year.

What a train wreck! But let's not pretend that most of us weren't with the conventional wisdom of the time.

[Harry Tic]

Wasn't the platoon in 2010? Also, I think they should have benched Heaps in the USU game and then still stuck with him in the games there after. The schedule got much easier from that point on. Reilly padded his stats and set the Heaps transfer into motion. I think the coaches read way too much into 2 lucky completions against USU.

Yep, you're right. I was giving Sizzle the benefit of a doubt in assuming he was talking about the dual-QB experiment. As for the 2011 season, I don't see why people are reluctant to give Riley his due. He was the right guy at the time and did all he was asked to, given his skill set: we lose that game to Utah State and I guaran-damn-tee the team packs up and goes home for the rest of the year with Heaps starting (destroying whatever was left of the kid's confidence too). It's likely that 2011 have been, next to 2003, the worst season since the pre-Lavell years, if not in terms of W-L record, then in terms of program morale.

Last year was a different story, for different reasons.

Here's to hoping we aren't grumbling about Taysom two or three weeks from now.

[Surfah]

I don't get all of the revisionist history. Heaps was clearly superior by the end of 2010, and was rightfully given the starting job. The offense underwhelmed as a whole in early 2011: Heaps, OL, coaches, everybody. Riley unquestionably won the 2011 USU game, and provided a spark that re-energized the team. At that point in time, most people (and most here) agreed that Riley should get his chance, and he did well enough to deserve the starting job. Then Heaps transfers, the cupboard is bare, and we play a QB with a broken back in arguably the two biggest games of the year.

What a train wreck! But let's not pretend that most of us weren't with the conventional wisdom of the time.

I wasn't.

[San Juan Sun]

I wasn't.

Post a link then. A bunch of people in this thread should be terrified of the search function. (I'm not, I freely post my opinions knowing I'm an idiot.)