2013 Two-deep projections

[cougjunkie]

I think we will see Mahina emerge as the go to down lineman TE with Friel backing him up and Wilson seeing reps in the slot. I think all 3 will play quite a bit.

I agree with this, I think Wilson is the best athlete and the best fit for the slot position. He is also the worst at blocking.

We might see the return of Marcus Matthews as he fits in to Anaes system very well.

Anae was the running game coordinator at Arizona last year. They had the nations leading rusher in Ka'Deem Carey who ran for 1929 yards, 23 tds and had a 6.4ypc.

Quarterback Matt Scott has ran for 500 yards.

[Moliere]

I honestly think it was all of the above. He also had a serious case of the dropsies midway through the season.

He did drop some passes, but he also had a tendency to tip Riley's passes into the air where they were easily intercepted. It wasn't always Friel's fault as the passes on the crossing route were usually well behind him and up high. I'd prefer to see Mahina at TE, not sure why.

What about Beck at LB? I'd expect him to see a bit more time there, but maybe he's still undersized and not quick enough for MLB.

[Winky Bach]

I cut CJs list up a little here. Here I what I thought about looking at CJs 2 deep:

Positions that scare me:
QB- Taysom Hill, Jason Munns, Billy Green (I want to see a QB who can make reads and throw the ball. Nobody on this list has proven they can do both yet. I am hoping coaching improves the QB play this year)
LG- Solomone Kafu, Josh Carter, Tim Duran
TE- Friel, Wilson, Mahina, Matthews, Reden, (Friel looked like good many times, but we have been spoiled at TE prior to the last few years)
RT- D'ondre Wesley, Brock Stringham
K-?
P-? (This was such a strength last year and it helped the D.)
CB- Trenton Tramell, Mike Hague, Drew Reilly

Postions that I will be watching for spring reports about:
WR- Ross Apo, Brett Thompson, Mitch Matthews (Doman took a lot of blame for Apo, but I started to think Apo needs to do more to become an impact player or a star)
RG- Houston Reynolds, Maanaki Vaitai
C- Brayden Kearsley, Blair Tushaus, Edward Fusi
MLB- Manoa Pikula, Kalolo Utu, Chasen Anderson
OLB- Spencer Hadley, Teu Kautai

Are any of these position more solid than I think?

[MarkGrace]

Anae was the run game coordinator at UofA? For some reason I thought he had another gig (o-line coach?). How do people think that will impact what we saw of him then versus what we'll see now? My memory is probably off and I'm sure Indy will have some stat to show i'm wrong, but in his early years at BYU it seems like he would throw throw throw and there were also a couple early games I felt we lost because of it. Then, according to popular rumor, Reynolds punched him a bunch of times in the face to get him to run the ball more and we seemed to get better balance out of him.

[Goatnapper'96]

I don't know about that. Kid's been here for three years now and i'm not sure he's put on 15 lbs total in that three years.

I thought he looked a legitimate 225 last year. I thought he got to BYU at about 195 and might have got up to 210 his RS freshman year, which meant he had put on 15 lbs total his first two years in the program. Last year I thought he was starting to show some pipes with definition and a little more legit weight. I think this year he will get upwards of 235-240 and really start to show his potential. One must remember he is 6'5 so 225 on his frame is still quite slight. I think he could get up to 250 and carry it well. My hope is he gets to 240 this year and then 250 for his senior year.

But I am the king of wishful thinking!

[cougjunkie]

I cut CJs list up a little here. Here I what I thought about looking at CJs 2 deep:

Positions that scare me:
QB- Taysom Hill, Jason Munns, Billy Green (I want to see a QB who can make reads and throw the ball. Nobody on this list has proven they can do both yet. I am hoping coaching improves the QB play this year)
LG- Solomone Kafu, Josh Carter, Tim Duran
TE- Friel, Wilson, Mahina, Matthews, Reden, (Friel looked like good many times, but we have been spoiled at TE prior to the last few years)
RT- D'ondre Wesley, Brock Stringham
K-?
P-? (This was such a strength last year and it helped the D.)
CB- Trenton Tramell, Mike Hague, Drew Reilly

Postions that I will be watching for spring reports about:
WR- Ross Apo, Brett Thompson, Mitch Matthews (Doman took a lot of blame for Apo, but I started to think Apo needs to do more to become an impact player or a star)
RG- Houston Reynolds, Maanaki Vaitai
C- Brayden Kearsley, Blair Tushaus, Edward Fusi
MLB- Manoa Pikula, Kalolo Utu, Chasen Anderson
OLB- Spencer Hadley, Teu Kautai

Are any of these position more solid than I think?

I was told by a former coach of Apos (you can guess who, it is not hard) that after Ross took that hit over the middle against Utah State he was never the same. They said he played tentative and scared. It was something he could never shake the entire season.


We have enough O-lineman to find 5-7 solid players. The depth is definitely there it is just a matter of who steps up.

MLB is definitely a question mark but i thought Unga was really good in limited time last year. He also has great speed for an MLB.

[Indy Coug]

Anae was the run game coordinator at UofA? For some reason I thought he had another gig (o-line coach?). How do people think that will impact what we saw of him then versus what we'll see now? My memory is probably off and I'm sure Indy will have some stat to show i'm wrong, but in his early years at BYU it seems like he would throw throw throw and there were also a couple early games I felt we lost because of it. Then, according to popular rumor, Reynolds punched him a bunch of times in the face to get him to run the ball more and we seemed to get better balance out of him.

It allegedly came to a head in game 4 of 2005 when BYU lost to SDSU to fall to 1-3. Of course, no one bothers recognizing the fact that our defense gave up 500 yards of total offense to a middling SDSU offense.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ils&game_id=89

Anae undoubtedly needed a few games as a rookie OC to calibrate his gameplanning to be a better fit for BYU personnel, rather than the TT athletes he was used to dealing with that could actually do something with the ball after catching it.

Reynolds was the mythical figure that always seemed to know exactly what BYU needed to do on offense if anyone would have enough damn sense to listen to him -- despite the fact that his run/pass ratio as 2000 OC indicates that he failed to run the damn ball himself.

[cougjunkie]

It allegedly came to a head in game 4 of 2005 when BYU lost to SDSU to fall to 1-3. Of course, no one bothers recognizing that the fact that our defense gave up 500 yards of total offense to a middling SDSU offense.

http://cougarstats.com/games.php?sho...ils&game_id=89

Anae undoubtedly needed a few games as a rookie OC to calibrate his gameplanning to be a better fit for BYU personnel, rather than the TT athletes he was used to dealing with that could actually do something with the ball after catching it.

Reynolds was the mythical figure that always seemed to know exactly what BYU needed to on offense if anyone would have enough damn sense to listen to him -- despite the fact that his run/pass ratio as 2000 OC indicates that he failed to run the damn ball himself.

When Anae made his now infamous quote about short passes and screens being an extension of the run game, cougar fans lost it. In reality he was right but BYU fans had a hard time grasping that and the myth that we never ran the ball has grown to epic proportions. Yet BYUs all time leading rusher played under Anae which means he is obviously running more than his predecessors.

[Indy Coug]

When Anae made his now infamous quote about short passes and screens being an extension of the run game, cougar fans lost it. In reality he was right but BYU fans had a hard time grasping that and the myth that we never ran the ball has grown to epic proportions. Yet BYUs all time leading rusher played under Anae which means he is obviously running more than his predecessors.

TWO all-time leading rushers: Brown then Unga.

[oxcoug]

I posted this in the death watch thread. Looks like we're largely in agreement w/ a few small departures. If Austin Jorgensen is back I think he'll be in the two-deep at MLB.


Defensive Line

RE / DT - Bronson Kaufusi / Theodore King

NT - Marques Johnson / Tui Crichton

LE / DT - Eathyn Manumaleuna (assuming full recovery) / Austin Holt

Others in rotation / compeition - (Ma'ataua Brown is out leaving on a mission apparently), Tuni Kanuch (cld be OL), Remington Peck, Merrill Taliauli (long tradition of true freshmen contributing at the interior line under Bronco, and given the lack of interior depth we might need him to), Stehly Reden (a guess at a move) - anyone else?



Linebackers

WLB - KVN / Alani Fua

ILB - Manoa Pikula / Austin Jorgensen (supposedly back w/ MRS)

ILB - Uani Unga / Tyler Beck

SLB - Spencer Hadley / Jherremya Leuta-Douyere

Others in the rotation: Kalolo Manumaleuna Utu, Toloai Ho-Ching, Sae Tautu (could see Tautu being a darkhorse to crack the rotation), Teu Katai, Adam Pulsipher - others? Has Joey Owens been resurrected?



Defensive Backs

FC - Jordan Johnson / Sam Lee

BC - Trenton Trammel / Skye PoVey

Kat - Daniel Sorensen / Hague (hoping)

FS - Craig Bills / Drew Reilly (CSU transfer)

Others in play: Trevor Bateman, Cameron Comer, Jacob Hanneman, Adam Hogan, Michael Wadsworth (Hawaii transfer), others?

[byu71]

When Anae made his now infamous quote about short passes and screens being an extension of the run game, cougar fans lost it. In reality he was right but BYU fans had a hard time grasping that and the myth that we never ran the ball has grown to epic proportions. Yet BYUs all time leading rusher played under Anae which means he is obviously running more than his predecessors.

I would say 99% of the time if we disagree, you will end up being right. However, I agree with Indy. Reynolds had to cajole both Anae and Bronco into running the ball. I remember Bronco making the "short passes are an extension of the run game and we won't change" after the SDSU game.

We then came out running more and yes Anae did end up running more than his predecesors. On this one a pat on the back might go to Reynolds as who knows how long Anae and Bronco, know for their stubborness, might have kept up with the shit passes.

[Winky Bach]

I was told by a former coach of Apos (you can guess who, it is not hard) that after Ross took that hit over the middle against Utah State he was never the same. They said he played tentative and scared. It was something he could never shake the entire season.


We have enough O-lineman to find 5-7 solid players. The depth is definitely there it is just a matter of who steps up.

MLB is definitely a question mark but i thought Unga was really good in limited time last year. He also has great speed for an MLB.

That makes sense about Apo. I hope he gets through it.

Seeing the comments about Anae in Arizona is encouraging for a quick improvement. If the tempo is going to be fast, I think lots of players could get time on the Oline this year and have a chance to stand out. I am glad you sound less concerned.

[Goatnapper'96]

That makes sense about Apo. I hope he gets through it.

Seeing the comments about Anae in Arizona is encouraging for a quick improvement. If the tempo is going to be fast, I think lots of players could get time on the Oline this year and have a chance to stand out. I am glad you sound less concerned.

I think tempo is a benefit for BYU. Especially at home at altitude. I also think it helps BYU if the qb has the ability to run. But IMO, health of the qb should be a higher priority. IOW, I want to see a qb run enough qb draws to keep defenses more honest as well as take off when a play breaks down. Take Taysom Hill, he must, he must, he must increase his bust, but he also needs to demonstrate that he is a legitimate passer. If he can do that, which is a higher priority than running, then his wheels become lethal. Steve Young was not Steve Young until he became a good passer.

[Goatnapper'96]

Let's see the projections for BYU and Utahs two-deep for next year. Here are my projections:

QB- Taysom Hill, Jason Munns, Billy Green
RB- Michael Alisa (yep he gets his spot back), Jamaal Williams, Adam Hine, AJ Moore
FB- Iona Pritchard, Patrick Palau, Joey Owens (I think he plays offense next year)
WR- Cody Hoffman, Skyler Ridley, Talon Shumway
WR- Ross Apo, Brett Thompson, Mitch Matthews
WR- JD Falslev, Michael Davis
TE- Friel, Wilson, Mahina, Matthews, Reden,
LT- Ryker Matthews, Michael Yeck
RT- D'ondre Wesley, Brock Stringham
RG- Houston Reynolds, Maanaki Vaitai
LG- Solomone Kafu, Josh Carter, Tim Duran
C- Brayden Kearsley, Blair Tushaus, Edward Fusi

DE- Bronson Kaufusi, Theodore King, Remington Peck
DE- Eathyn Manumaleuna, Austin Holt
DT- Tui Crichton, Tuni Kanuch, Marques Johnson
OLB- KVN, Alani Fua, JLD
MLB- Uani Unga, Butch Pau'u (depending on mission plans)
MLB- Manoa Pikula, Kalolo Utu, Chasen Anderson
OLB- Spencer Hadley, Teu Kautai
CB- Jordan Johnson, Samuel Lee
CB- Trenton Tramell, Mike Hague, Drew Reilly
S- Craig Bills, Michael Wadsworth, Jacob Hanneman
S- Daniel Sorenson, Sawyer Powell

This is purely speculation and after spring ball we will have a better idea.

On DE has Dulan been officially told no by the NCAA wrt his medical redshirt application. That is what I am expecting but I am wondering if it is official yet.

[Indy Coug]

I would say 99% of the time if we disagree, you will end up being right. However, I agree with Indy. Reynolds had to cajole both Anae and Bronco into running the ball. I remember Bronco making the "short passes are an extension of the run game and we won't change" after the SDSU game.

We then came out running more and yes Anae did end up running more than his predecesors. On this one a pat on the back might go to Reynolds as who knows how long Anae and Bronco, know for their stubborness, might have kept up with the shit passes.

Keep in mind, Texas Tech the year before decided it was a good idea to pass to Taurean Henderson 60 times, even though he only averaged 4.8 yards per reception, which was 0.4 yards per play less than Henderson's rushing attempts.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/playerDet...=700&player=19