U vs. Y '12

[BigPiney]

That was a fantastic year.

Agreed.

[kccougar]

I wonder why you started with last year. So arbitrary.

You're right. We should compare current coaches since they both started in 2005. BYU 63%. Utah 50%

[LA Ute]

I'd like to take a moment to thank those posters (hint: not Triple) who are contributing substantive insight into questions of x's, o's, personnel, and matchups.

JiC, tip of the cap - ToneLoc - you as well.

Ox, I'm afraid you've mistaken this deeply philiosophical thread for one that is actually about football and what might happen Saturday night. We do appreciate the occasional football post, though - make no mistake about that.

[smokymountainrain]

I know of one Pac-12 "bottom feeder" that handed you a six-touchdown loss last year.

Jake Heaps. BYU sucked. Congrats.

When BYU sucks I'm the first to admit it and it pisses me off.

When the utes suck, so many of you try to defend or justify it and then calm yourselves with the fact that you're in the PAC. Or at least that's how it seems. I wonder of Colorado, Oregon State and Wazzu fans do the same.

[Top Ute]

Jake Heaps. BYU sucked. Congrats.

When BYU sucks I'm the first to admit it and it pisses me off.

When the utes suck, so many of you try to defend or justify it and then calm yourselves with the fact that you're in the PAC. Or at least that's how it seems. I wonder of Colorado, Oregon State and Wazzu fans do the same.

That small parade of people insisting the honeymoon period in the Pac-12 is over? I'm leading it.

As far as the Utes sucking, it's been a long time since we've had a season-long resume that was truly sucky. And I don't think anyone's trying to say we were better than we were against Utah State (or Cal, or Colorado) -- maybe a few people, but that's a broad brush to say "so many of you."

[Art Vandelay]

Even non-fans are putting money on the cougars. The line went from utah-1 to utah +5. That equals a prime money making opportunity for you smart fans.

What book had Utah favored? The only movement I've seen is, Utah from +3.5 to +4.0

[LA Ute]

Jake Heaps. BYU sucked. Congrats.

When BYU sucks I'm the first to admit it and it pisses me off.

When the utes suck, so many of you try to defend or justify it and then calm yourselves with the fact that you're in the PAC. Or at least that's how it seems. I wonder of Colorado, Oregon State and Wazzu fans do the same.

We did that against Utah State. Also last season against Cal. Both games were very embarrassing. Same is true of the last two games with TCU. You'll have a hard time finding anyone on this board who says otherwise.

EDIT: I forgot the Colorado game.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Jake Heaps. BYU sucked. Congrats.

When BYU sucks I'm the first to admit it and it pisses me off.

When the utes suck, so many of you try to defend or justify it and then calm yourselves with the fact that you're in the PAC. Or at least that's how it seems. I wonder of Colorado, Oregon State and Wazzu fans do the same.

What's wrong with that? Seems like a pretty rational response to me.

[Art Vandelay]

We did that against Utah State. Also last season against Cal. Both games were very embarrassing. Same is true of the last two games with TCU. You'll have a hard time finding anyone on this board who says otherwise.

EDIT: I forgot the Colorado game.

And the Wazzu game (though weather played a big part in that). Utah was lucky to walk away from that with a win.

[smokymountainrain]

We did that against Utah State. Also last season against Cal. Both games were very embarrassing. Same is true of the last two games with TCU. You'll have a hard time finding anyone on this board who says otherwise.

EDIT: I forgot the Colorado game.

You guys were 4-5 in the PAC last year. The entire season was an embarrassment. After that kind of season, the last thing I'd be doing is bringing up a blowout win against a team QB'd by Jake Heaps.

[Top Ute]

NCAA rules to prevent poaching of missionaries that are named after active players: BYU 1, Utah 0

[kccougar]

That small parade of people insisting the honeymoon period in the Pac-12 is over? I'm leading it.

As far as the Utes sucking, it's been a long time since we've had a season-long resume that was truly sucky. And I don't think anyone's trying to say we were better than we were against Utah State (or Cal, or Colorado) -- maybe a few people, but that's a broad brush to say "so many of you."

Did someone say Parade?

It's been an award-winning year for Utah football, with the exception of, well, the football.

The university's Alumni Association sponsored a float in the Provo (yes, Provo) July 4 parade and won first place. Then came the Mayor's Award in the Days of '47 Parade. The latest was the Sweepstakes Award in the Brigham City Peach Days Parade.

The latter must have seemed a good idea, right up until Utah State shocked the Utes on Friday. Then on Saturday morning, parade organizers discovered the float's transmission had failed. So compounding the loss was the fact Utah's float had to be towed down the parade route by a large Aggie-blue-colored truck.

Moral to the story: Don't plan your parades too far in advance.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765603193/When-it-rains-on-U-parade.html

[smokymountainrain]

What's wrong with that? Seems like a pretty rational response to me.

Nothing, if you have lowered expectations for your team. If USC were to go 4-5 in the conference, I doubt they would be consoling themselves with the fact that they are in the PAC. I could be wrong.

[LA Ute]

You guys were 4-5 in the PAC last year. The entire season was an embarrassment. After that kind of season, the last thing I'd be doing is bringing up a blowout win against a team QB'd by Jake Heaps.

I respectfully and lovingly disagree. What's that odor, anyway? Smells like steer manure....

And the Wazzu game (though weather played a big part in that). Utah was lucky to walk away from that with a win.

Well, now, if we are going to start counting games that a team is lucky to walk away from with a win as embarrassments, then we are going to have a lot of fun talking about a lot of BYU wins. But I shall forbear. As always, I say all of this with love.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Jake Heaps. BYU sucked. Congrats.

When BYU sucks I'm the first to admit it and it pisses me off.

When the utes suck, so many of you try to defend or justify it and then calm yourselves with the fact that you're in the PAC. Or at least that's how it seems. I wonder of Colorado, Oregon State and Wazzu fans do the same.

I'm willing to admit that Utah sucks this year and it is going to be a long season. That doesn't mean that BYU is good though and I'm not convinced at all that BYU has a good team this year.