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  • Top Ute
    Junior Member
    • May 2010
    • 2194

    #196
    Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
    Which part?
    Draw a triangle from Wichita to Fayetteville to Oklahoma City and you've pretty much covered it.

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    • DU Ute
      RIP CUF
      • Dec 2008
      • 7393

      #197
      Originally posted by Babs View Post
      Yeah, I'm not seeing it, and I think it reinforces Utah's association with the MWC and WAC instead of with the Pac. But then I'm just a neutral observer who's lived in Oklahoma and Texas my whole life.
      OK, whatever. It's still an easier win and better for recruiting than playing in Provo, though I'd personally rather have the rivalry game in 2014 and 15.
      "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
      "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
      "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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      • LiveCoug
        LA Ute loves me
        • Nov 2008
        • 18489

        #198
        Originally posted by DU Ute View Post
        OK, whatever. It's still an easier win and better for recruiting than playing in Provo, though I'd personally rather have the rivalry game in 2014 and 15.
        In no way, shape or form is playing Tulsa better than playing your rival. Sorry.

        BYU played at Tulsa a few years ago. It really improved their recruiting.

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        • Jarid in Cedar
          CS Institutional Memory
          • Jun 2009
          • 13234

          #199
          Defending the indefensible seems to be a CUF tradition. Why not Houston or SMU if we are trying for a Texas presence that is with a 2nd tier school? Tulsa makes absolutely no sense on any level.
          "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

          "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

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          • DU Ute
            RIP CUF
            • Dec 2008
            • 7393

            #200
            Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
            In no way, shape or form is playing Tulsa better than playing your rival. Sorry.

            BYU played at Tulsa a few years ago. It really improved their recruiting.
            I said I'd rather play BYU, but any advantage Utah gets with in-state recruits from playing BYU is neutralized by BYU receiving the same boost. There is no competitive recruiting advantage from playing BYU, if anything it gives BYU a slight advantage.
            "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
            "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
            "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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            • DU Ute
              RIP CUF
              • Dec 2008
              • 7393

              #201
              Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
              Defending the indefensible seems to be a CUF tradition. Why not Houston or SMU if we are trying for a Texas presence that is with a 2nd tier school? Tulsa makes absolutely no sense on any level.
              I'd much rather play those schools. A recruit's family in Dallas would prefer a game in Tulsa over one in Provo.
              Last edited by DU Ute; 08-17-2012, 10:50 AM.
              "In conclusion, let me give a shout-out to dirty sex. What a great thing it is" - Northwestcoug
              "And you people wonder why you've had extermination orders issued against you." - landpoke
              "Can't . . . let . . . foolish statements . . . by . . . BYU fans . . . go . . . unanswered . . . ." - LA Ute

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              • Coach McGuirk
                1
                • Nov 2008
                • 12109

                #202
                What is the big damn fuss about? We already knew that Michigan took the spot of BYU so why does anyone care that Tulsa is on the schedule? I could see being pissed if it were someone equal to BYU but Utah is just doing what they said they were going to do.

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                • LA Ute
                  Receiver of Memory
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19512

                  #203
                  Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                  Defending the indefensible seems to be a CUF tradition. Why not Houston or SMU if we are trying for a Texas presence that is with a 2nd tier school? Tulsa makes absolutely no sense on any level.
                  I must admit that I agree.
                  “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                  ― W.H. Auden


                  "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                  -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                  "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                  --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                  • Top Ute
                    Junior Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 2194

                    #204
                    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                    I must admit that I agree.
                    We don't even know if recruiting is driving this decision. But if it is, it's shortsighted. Tulsa is smack dab between mizzou and A&M, making it SEC country as much as it is Big 12 country. We don't play BYU because we don't want to overextend ourselves in scheduling, but you can make the same mistake in recruiting, too.

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #205
                      Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                      We don't even know if recruiting is driving this decision. But if it is, it's shortsighted. Tulsa is smack dab between mizzou and A&M, making it SEC country as much as it is Big 12 country. We don't play BYU because we don't want to overextend ourselves in scheduling, but you can make the same mistake in recruiting, too.
                      Kyle has a strong say in scheduling, although the AD signs the contracts. Why would he go along with this? (Seriously wondering.)
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • New Mexican Disaster
                        Suomalainen
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4549

                        #206
                        Another problem is that TUlsa is not too bad. An away game against them is not a layup at all, as we found out in 2007.

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                        • Scorcho
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 835

                          #207
                          so if I have this correct, Utah's OOC Football Schedule for the next few years is:

                          2013

                          vs. Utah State

                          @ BYU

                          vs. Weber State


                          2014

                          vs. unnamed Big Sky Team/equivalent

                          vs. Tulsa

                          @ Michigan


                          2015

                          vs. Utah State

                          @ Tulsa

                          vs Michigan


                          2016

                          vs. BYU

                          open

                          open

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                          • myboynoah
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 21719

                            #208
                            Tulsa will beat the UofUtah in Tulsa. But at least Sooner's FiL will have a legit reason to come decked out in his UofUtah gear to a football game in Tulsa.

                            Don't forget to visit ORU while there.

                            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #209
                              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                              Don't forget to visit ORU while there.

                              Why would we do that when we are trying so hard to disassociate ourselves from conservative religious schools?
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                              • Babs
                                Not a Lawyer
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 17128

                                #210
                                Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                                Tulsa will beat the UofUtah in Tulsa. But at least Sooner's FiL will have a legit reason to come decked out in his UofUtah gear to a football game in Tulsa.
                                ha. I think I remember quite a few Ute fans in the crowd. They kept asking for updates on the Utah score.

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