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It will also be nice for fans like me who every other year will get to go to a different big10 stadium. I think the only one I would have difficulty attending is nebraska.
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It's not a huge deal, but it's interesting. The Utes have such an enormous advantage over BYU due to the Pac12 membership.Comment
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Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
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this is true. You have an odd geography in all of this...fan of the Utes but living in B1G territory. I imagine it will be an every other year thing so at least you get one reasonable roadie every 2 seasons.Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View PostFitter. Happier. More Productive.
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Apparently you are not excited? I could have overstated because I personally don't think it is exciting at all.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View Post again.Fitter. Happier. More Productive.
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This is about 2 things(well one thing really)
The first is money. Sponsorships: The Fed-Ex Pac-12/B1G Challenge eg. It is a vehicle to have a larger sponsorships, more things to brand, etc. The double header concept at neutral sites also is a big opportunity to exploit for $$$.
The second is about TV content for the Big-10 and Pac-12 networks. To have a viable product for the third tier rights, you have to have games that people care about. This collaboration gives a means to improve the non conference schedules for a majority of the teams in the conference. If you look at the 2012OOC games for some random teams, there is a dire need for an upgrade from a quality standpoint:
Oregon
•09/01 - Arkansas State
•09/08 - Fresno State
•09/15 - Tennessee Tech
Purdue
•09/01 - Eastern Kentucky
•09/08 - at Notre Dame
•09/15 - Eastern Michigan
•09/29 - Marshall
Stanford
•09/01 - San Jose State
•09/08 - Duke
•10/13 - at Notre Dame
Iowa
•09/01 - Northern Illinois (at Chicago, IL)
•09/08 - Iowa State
•09/15 - Northern Iowa
•09/22 - Central Michigan
The marquee games(USC-Michigan, etc) are going to be scooped up by the tier 1 & 2 television partners. But the third tier networks are going to see a big upgrade. A Utah-Iowa matchup does not have the interest of some of the bigger names, but it is more compelling from a TV standpoint than Iowa-Central Michigan or Utah-Utah State. These are the type of games that the two conferences need to improve the quality of the product of the Pac-12/Big Ten networks.
As much as we want it to be about significant games, cool places to visit, etc. It is about the money, and that money is driven by TV ratings."The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
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There you go again, bursting our bubbles....Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
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I am excited about it. I was rolling my eyes as you seem to think that Utah hasn't played Big 10 teams before.Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
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Great analysis. The only thing I have to add is that it puts the two conferences in position if big fish expansion (Texas & Notre Dame) happens.Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
Lets say the conferences like the agreement so well they both decide to play 8 conference games and have two collaboration games. Could that be the carrot that finally gets ND to go to the B1G? They already play 5 B1G and 2 PAC12 teams every year. Maybe the new BCS agreement is favorable to 14 team conferences (like a stipulation that you can have 3 teams in bcs games if your conference is 14 teams or higher).
Is it out of the realm of possibility that ND and Rutgers would join the B1G while Texas and maybe Air Force (fits the pac12 academic profile) join the Pac12? Its not likely but if there is one thing we have learned from expansion is that anything is possible."Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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im aware that Utah has played a B10 team before. What Utah cannot do, much like Indiana, is get home and homes with the marquee teams when it wants. Your excitement basically supports my theory.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostFitter. Happier. More Productive.
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No but apparently our conference can do something just as good if not better. Sort of a trivial point you are making, no?Originally posted by TripletDaddy View PostComment
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Some events I will like to see.
Football
Mich St./Michigan/Ohio St v PAC12 (preferrably Utah) @ Ford Field
Purdue/Iowa/Northwestern/Illinois vs PAC12 (preferrably Utah) @ Soldier Field
Utah @ Penn St (My father in law is a big Penn st fan so I would go to the game with him and his brother).
Utah vs B1G @ Dodger Stadium/New LA Stadium/Qualcomm/Vegas
Utah vs Michigan/Ohio St/Penn St/Nebraska @ Rice Eccles
Basketball
Saturday after conference championship football games.
4 game matchup @ the palace of Auburn Hills/United Center
Utah playing in Ann Arbor/East Lansing/Columbus or Bloomington"Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum
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I think anyone who cares about the BYU-Utah Rivalry game has to realize that this announcement reduces any chance that the rivalry will continue with any regularity beyond 2013.Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
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Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.
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Yeah. I hate it, too. It was about the only real organic tradition either school had. Sadly it's not the only great rivalry that's dying in the next few years.Originally posted by pellegrino View PostComment
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I forgot. You have been a fan of the PAC for a whole 12 months now. Get excited, I guess.Originally posted by UtahDan View PostFitter. Happier. More Productive.
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