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  • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
    I think there is a difference between not caring and taking it too seriously.

    I don't know of anyone involved with either school that doesn't care.

    Perhaps you feel that everyone should be upset or elated for several weeks? A month? Should people cry? What is the appropriate response as you see it?
    I think people should cry. That would bring me even more joy. I'm just highlighting that the emotion lasts longer for the victor because it is a good one where as the losers always compartmentalize, move one, start talking about other things (many of them ridiculous) and say they don't care because most of us don't dwell on unpleasantness. I.e., yeah we lost but anywho, lets talk about rude fans, how much we think you will get clobbered in your BCS game, etc etc.

    Its only Tuesday, I will bask in the glow for weeks. If my team had lost, I would still want to talk football but not that, so I would also be not caring, minimizing, picking at the edges, focusing on minutia, etc.

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    • Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
      I don't think DDD is alone in waking up the next morning to a new day. I don't wake up ecstatic the morning after a win, and I don't wake up devastated after a loss.
      Oh BS. If you can't talk more pleasure out of an important win in a rivlary game (the biggest most important ever) then you have missed half the point of college sports. Had BYU won 48-24 BYU fans would be on cloud nine for weeks with endless threads about the game, its fall out, implications, relative status of the programs, etc, and rightly so.

      I just don't believe you. I understand that we all want to move on after a loss because it is unpleasant, we cut it off, but don't try to sell me on the the idea that you move on just as quickly from a really big important rivalry win. Nonsense.

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      • Originally posted by venkman View Post
        I was on cloud nine for weeks after the 2006 win. I'd get all SU-like and my eyes would well up with tears of joy just thinking about that catch.

        So it really just depends.
        This underscores the point I was making (it was a really small point, actually). You will probably always feel satisfaction and joy about that catch. It was a big deal and it always will be. You dwell on the good when there is some, but in a week like this you move on. You are also right of course that expectations are everything.

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        • Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
          Oh BS. If you can't talk more pleasure out of an important win in a rivlary game (the biggest most important ever) then you have missed half the point of college sports. Had BYU won 48-24 BYU fans would be on cloud nine for weeks with endless threads about the game, its fall out, implications, relative status of the programs, etc, and rightly so.

          I just don't believe you. I understand that we all want to move on after a loss because it is unpleasant, we cut it off, but don't try to sell me on the the idea that you move on just as quickly from a really big important rivalry win. Nonsense.
          For me, win or lose, the game is over once I leave the stadium. I did talk about it, but there is very little emotional attachment for me to a game.

          It doesn't surprise me that others are like me in that regard, as it really is just a game. Perhaps you are more emotionally invested in it than I am.

          The only time I was ever emotionally involved was when I played. But now that I am only a spectator rather than a participant, I have no reason to get emotional.
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          • Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
            Oh BS. If you can't talk more pleasure out of an important win in a rivlary game (the biggest most important ever) then you have missed half the point of college sports. Had BYU won 48-24 BYU fans would be on cloud nine for weeks with endless threads about the game, its fall out, implications, relative status of the programs, etc, and rightly so.

            I just don't believe you. I understand that we all want to move on after a loss because it is unpleasant, we cut it off, but don't try to sell me on the the idea that you move on just as quickly from a really big important rivalry win. Nonsense.
            I agree. This loss will bother me until we have a chance to make things right next November.
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            • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
              I agree. This loss will bother me until we have a chance to make things right next November.
              Surfah, you get me. You really get me.

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              • Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                I agree. This loss will bother me until we have a chance to make things right next November.
                It'll bug me too, but it won't stick in my craw for the entire time.

                But....I won't lie when I'm saying that revenge will be sweet.

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                • Originally posted by RockyBalboa View Post
                  It'll bug me too, but it won't stick in my craw for the entire time.
                  I don't think there is room for anything additional to be stuck in your craw.

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                  • I kicked the chair on one of the interceptions and yelled at Anae's play calling. I don't think he could hear me through the TV, but I yelled anyway. So there is still some of that, "I am in pain with my team" still left in me. However, the pain goes away quickly.

                    I think it is somewhat like my affiliation with the republican party. It seems the religious right has taken over. Especially as the victim of the religious right, I live vicariously through Mitt Romney, I am somewhat sensitive to those who want to mix "their" brand of religion with politics.

                    Likewise, the overt expression of the religion card that has ascended into the BYU football program has dampened my enthusiasm. Bandwaggoner??? Well just watch the religion/football contingency abandon ship if we don't compete with Utah on the national stage.

                    I will be very interested in the attendance at the Vegas Bowl if we go. My guess is even with another 10-2 season, attendance will be off. Coaches, admin. and fans alike deep in their minds are questioning now whether we can move to the next level with the "they need to recruit us" mantra. As time goes on the "God will bless our team" crowd will jump off the bandwaggon faster than most fans. They will crawl back into their mode of "I would rather lose with honor than win without it" and watch the games on TV when they have the time.

                    I should add this note: Bronco is a very, very good coach. He has given BYU everything they have asked for and more. 3 great seasons and a promotion of the BYU ideals. I like the BB coaches style more, but that is a personal thing and certainly not a knock on Bronco. I just wonder if there are enough "true blue" fans out there to carry the program if we stall out where we are at.

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                    • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                      I kicked the chair on one of the interceptions and yelled at Anae's play calling. I don't think he could hear me through the TV, but I yelled anyway. So there is still some of that, "I am in pain with my team" still left in me. However, the pain goes away quickly.
                      Very strange to see you post without your usual avatar. Seriously, Welcome BYU71. Glad you made it over.

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                      • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                        I Bandwaggoner??? . . . jump off the bandwaggon
                        I'm happy to see BYU71, and even more happy to see the 19th century spelling of "waggon."
                        "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                        -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                        • Originally posted by Solon View Post
                          I'm happy to see BYU71, and even more happy to see the 19th century spelling of "waggon."
                          I like your avatar... I bet you chose it to represent the Utah Fans treating the byu fans at Rice Eccles Olympic Stadium.
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                          • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                            I like your avatar... I bet you chose it to represent the Utah Fans treating the byu fans at Rice Eccles Olympic Stadium.
                            Actually, that's what I thought when I uploaded it. The red background is a nice touch.
                            "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
                            -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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                            • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              I will be very interested in the attendance at the Vegas Bowl if we go. My guess is even with another 10-2 season, attendance will be off. Coaches, admin. and fans alike deep in their minds are questioning now whether we can move to the next level with the "they need to recruit us" mantra. As time goes on the "God will bless our team" crowd will jump off the bandwaggon faster than most fans. They will crawl back into their mode of "I would rather lose with honor than win without it" and watch the games on TV when they have the time.
                              It is not so much the religion for me as the "Who cares, it is only football" and
                              "I hate gameday" crap. Well if that is truly the case, give me someone who cares and enjoys what they are doing. Otherwise, get out of sports, and turn BYU into a religion only school, because "who cares".

                              Then again, that could all be apart of the religion rhetoric.

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                              • Welcome BYU71. Great to have you here.
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