Nelson vs Heaps post Idaho game

[Hsaru]

We're constrained by NCAA regulations on number of assistant coaches not budget.

Have Reynolds swan song be coaching the OL the last few years before he retires (which means no more Weber), and bring in Detmer. Reynolds really upped the play of the RB and TEs when he coached them, I think he could do the same with the OL, Weber's lines underachieve every year.

[ERCougar]

Have Reynolds swan song be coaching the OL the last few years before he retires (which means no more Weber), and bring in Detmer. Reynolds really upped the play of the RB and TEs when he coached them, I think he could do the same with the OL, Weber's lines underachieve every year.

With you on your delusional Heaps kick, this is the first thing you've posted in a long time that I've agreed with.

How is Weber getting such a pass? Every year, I hear about how good and talented and experienced our OL is--it's the one area where BY didn't totally eff our recruiting pool--and yet it never ends up being better than mediocre.

[Hsaru]

With you on your delusional Heaps kick, this is the first thing you've posted in a long time that I've agreed with.

How is Weber getting such a pass? Every year, I hear about how good and talented and experienced our OL is--it's the one area where BY didn't totally eff our recruiting pool--and yet it never ends up being better than mediocre.

Reynolds can still coach the TEs as well as the Oline coach, have the TEs work with both Reynolds and Cahoon for blocking and routes respectively.

[Uncle Ted]

Have Reynolds swan song be coaching the OL the last few years before he retires (which means no more Weber), and bring in Detmer. Reynolds really upped the play of the RB and TEs when he coached them, I think he could do the same with the OL, Weber's lines underachieve every year.

Maybe they can talk Detmer into coming back to BYU for a graduate degree and make him a graduate assistant.

[Devildog]

IMO a big part of being a good quarterback is being able to keep your head and fight through adversity... keep your team in a tough fight until you can find a way to win.

Heaps has so far struggled with doing this.

Nelson may not have Heaps type raw skill, but he is a better competitor at this point.

Broken rib? Don't count Nelson out yet.

Anyone could look great leading BYU's team against Idaho and Idaho State.

[Katy Lied]

I compared the BYU coaching staff to the Ute Staff and found these major differences


(I disregarded the ceremonial titles such as ARod's "co-offensive coordinator" title and Reynolds' "assistant head coach" title)

Utah has an OC and a DC and BYU does not.
Utah has a quarterbacks coach and BYU does not
Utah has a coach for the safeties and a coach for the cornerbacks. BYU just has a secondary coach.

BYU has an in LB coach and an out LB coach, and Utah just has a LB coach. For as much emphasis as BYU places on the LBs, (overrecruiting as well as multiple coaches), their LB corps should be wayy better.

BYU doesnt have a special teams coach. They just divide up the Special teams responsibilities between all of the coaches. Utah has a ST coach.

[Hsaru]

I compared the BYU coaching staff to the Ute Staff and found these major differences


(I disregarded the ceremonial titles such as ARod's "co-offensive coordinator" title and Reynolds' "assistant head coach" title)

Utah has an OC and a DC and BYU does not.
Utah has a quarterbacks coach and BYU does not
Utah has a coach for the safeties and a coach for the cornerbacks. BYU just has a secondary coach.

BYU has an in LB coach and an out LB coach, and Utah just has a LB coach. For as much emphasis as BYU places on the LBs, (overrecruiting as well as multiple coaches), their LB corps should be wayy better.

BYU doesnt have a special teams coach. They just divide up the Special teams responsibilities between all of the coaches. Utah has a ST coach.

LBers have been the strongest unit on the team, they have been very good.

[Katy Lied]

LBers have been the strongest unit on the team, they have been very good.

Gotta disagree with ya there. Will keep my opinions to myself.

Coaches need to harvest LBers to other positions. Like Mike Aliiso.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Isn't Doman the QB coach? Everyone keeps saying there is no QB coach, what position does Doman coach?

[Surfah]

I disagree. The best thing would be for Bronco to bring in a dedicated QB coach and coach up Jake. I said earlier in the season that I want going to drink any Kool aid based off these final games....really going back to anything after the first month, with the exception of maybe TCU, OSU, and Hawaii. I'm puzzled by these game by game analyses of Riley or Jakes QB rating. Last night is a great example. Jakes QB rating was through the roof. What does it show? That Jake was good against an awful team.

Where are we now? We are exactly where we were yesterday morning. We have learned almost nothing. Jake winning last night was equivalent to Jake winning at the end of last season against awful teams.

Riley's injury is really unfortunate. Although I did find some irony in the nature of his injury. Despite all predictions to the contrary (including my own), Riley was popped while standing back and passing the ball like a real QB, not while diving recklessly headlong into a wall of linebackers 10 yards past the LOS.

Here is a fearless prediction for next week to underscore the ridiculous nature of Broncos approach to this controversy, now poised to enter its third season: Jake will do well against New Mexico State, BYU will win big. And, using the logic many have used throughout the season, the job is now Jakes, not Riley's. Riley looked awful against TCU and lost that game. He couldn't finish tonight, so Jake came in off the bench and lead the team to victory. It is Jakes job now, injury or no. Time to start printing "Jake Up" t shirts.

Does anyone remember a QB controversy at ANY school (or even NFL) that spanned the course of 3 seasons? I think it is unprecedented. And it is all on Bronco.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Does anyone remember a QB controversy at ANY school (or even NFL) that spanned the course of 3 seasons? I think it is unprecedented. And it is all on Bronco.

As much as I enjoy Bronco-bashing, I think you are being overly harsh in pinning this all on him. Some of this is circumstance.

[Hsaru]

Isn't Doman the QB coach? Everyone keeps saying there is no QB coach, what position does Doman coach?

He's a first year OC, he needs to be (and likely is) spending most of his football time climbing the very high learning curve of being an OC with a new offense(atleast that was truer early in the year, we scrapped a lot of that stuff). 5 years down the road I think most people would have no problem with him being an OC/QB combo, but he can't fulfill the QB part to its fullest until he has a better grasp on things as an OC.

[woot]

We're constrained by NCAA regulations on number of assistant coaches not budget.

Are we really at the limit? Is it just because of Reynolds? How can that be when we also don't have a DC?

[woot]

He's a first year OC, he needs to be (and likely is) spending most of his football time climbing the very high learning curve of being an OC with a new offense(atleast that was truer early in the year, we scrapped a lot of that stuff). 5 years down the road I think most people would have no problem with him being an OC/QB combo, but he can't fulfill the QB part to its fullest until he has a better grasp on things as an OC.

Agreed. It seems like a lot of being a good OC is having been around the block for a decade or three. Short of that, Doman would need to be studying schemes constantly to try to get to the point where it's second nature how to react to what defenses are doing both on the fly and in one's base scheme. Some coaches can pull off all that plus coaching the most important position on the offense, but I'd bet those guys tend to be the really experienced ones. I'd be in favor of getting rid of the one of the LB coaches (2 seems like overkill anyway) if that's what it takes to get a dedicated QB coach.

[Hsaru]

Are we really at the limit? Is it just because of Reynolds? How can that be when we also don't have a DC?

We are at the limit.

Cahoon-WR
Reynolds-TE
Weber-OL
Doman-OC/QB
Poppinga-OLB
Tidwell-MLB
Howell-Secondary
Kaufusi-DL
Dupaix-RBs

Reynolds to OL/TE and getting rid of Weber seems like the smart move if anything is done to the staff at the end of the year.