Penn State pedophilia

[DU Ute]

Consider this factor in your analysis: Perhaps McQueary (as did a number of other football/athletic dept. personnel and administrators, including Paterno) knew no later that 1998 about Sandusky's pedophilia (or at least about allegations that had been made), and perhaps he knew that the athletic dept. had made a deal with Sandusky which resulted in a cover up.

In that context, seeing his close friend and mentor, in the act, perhaps it did not come as a complete surprise, and because he knew of/was part of the cover up, he goes to Paterno, rather than the police.

If any of this is close to true, then yes, I can understand a little better why McQueary responded as he did.

McQueary has know Sandusky his whole life. I wonder if he could have been victimized himself? I think that is about the only thing that could, in any way, justify his actions and his continued presence as a coach.

[dabrockster]

More Info about Second Mile: Buddy of mine mentioned there was a uptick in donations to thsi organization when Scumducky was there. Which leads the issue of pimping kids etc.

Also, Matt Millen seems to not ever mention the fact he is a honorary board member of "Second Mile".. His tears may be real but I have a critical eye to him now... He should of made mention of this...

http://www.yardbarker.com/all_sports...candal/7949779

[TripletDaddy]

Nebraska sez: Calm down by this weekend or else

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...n-State-111011

A University of Nebraska regent called for safety assurances from Penn State on Thursday, saying he fears for the Cornhuskers' football traveling party and fans at this weekend's game.

Regent Tim Clare of Lincoln said he began worrying about safety while watching televised coverage of the scene in State College, Pa., after coach Joe Paterno's firing Wednesday night...

...Clare said PSU police should lay out a specific security plan to Nebraska officials and say how it will be carried out.

''If we're not satisfied with that answer, we look to Plan B,'' Clare said, though he would not speculate on alternatives if Nebraska officials aren't satisfied with Penn State's security plans.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Nebraska sez: Calm down by this weekend or else

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...n-State-111011

They have good reason to be worried.

[lambdacoug]

Nebraska sez: Calm down by this weekend or else

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...n-State-111011

If NU uses this as a guise to boycott playing PSU, I will put aside my longtime hatred of NU and be their newest fan.

[CJF]

McQueary has know Sandusky his whole life. I wonder if he could have been victimized himself? I think that is about the only thing that could, in any way, justify his actions and his continued presence as a coach.

I've had this same thought. I think there is more to how McQueary handled this than just the seemingly indifference or concerned about his career. Having a personal history of being abused by the man he caught could cause all sorts or irrational reactions.

[dabrockster]

Nebraska sez: Calm down by this weekend or else

http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefoot...n-State-111011

I am glad someone is expressing concern over their behavior and actions. PSU fans are looking disgusting in all of this..

[Scorcho]

I am glad someone is expressing concern over their behavior and actions. PSU fans are looking disgusting in all of this..

I have a feeling once the shock wears off and Penn State fans have time to think and process what happened, they will realize firing Paterno was the right decision. PSU is 8-1, they have a big game on Saturday and many of them are worried and are in that deep focused football illogical mindset that football is bigger than life. I can kind of understand why they wanted JoePa to coach on Saturday and eliminate any distractions.

This reminds me a little of what many Utah Fans went through with Majerus. It took a long time for some of us (myself included) to concede that despite his success, Hill made the right decision to let Rick go. In no way am I comparing what Paterno has done for his school to what Majerus did for Utah. There is no way they are on equal footing.

We held on to the little things about Majerus, and overlooked his many flaws. We were quick to point out he was a good son, and good to his mom. He was compassionate and decent at times and yet we overlooked how verbal abusive he was, and how horrible he treated many people. It took a little time to grasp reality again and realize what was important.

[LA Ute]

Just another question that I find thought-provoking: What if McQueary had come upon Sandusky raping a 10 year-old girl? Would those who tend to be less critical of McQueary feel differently in that case? Why?

[DU Ute]

Just another question that I find thought-provoking: What if McQueary had come upon Sandusky raping a 10 year-old girl? Would those who tend to be less critical of McQueary feel differently in that case? Why?

I have a 10 year old girl, I'm glad right now that she isn't a boy that I couldn't help but picture in that situation. I know it isn't what you are asking, but anything that makes the situation more personal to a particular individual is going to change the way they react. It's sad to me to think of the thousands (millions?) of boys and men across the country that are reliving their own personal hell while watching this.

[Levin]

Just another question that I find thought-provoking: What if McQueary had come upon Sandusky raping a 10 year-old girl? Would those who tend to be less critical of McQueary feel differently in that case? Why?

I've had this thought too. Especially given the sex tourism trade that many American men trade in by traveling to Thailand to have sex with enslaved girls. I saw a 60 minutes segment on it once, and could hardly breathe from the lump in my throat of anger.

The sex trafficking of children is a problem with a scale none of us want to recognize, and so we don't. We as a society turn away. It's one of the great moral indictments of our age that we don't do more.

A silver lining from this (if possible):

(1) parents talk to their kids frankly about this and open up those lines of communication and instill the necessary self-awareness

(2) institutions will evaluate their own reporting of the problem

(3) people will recognize how the sexual exploitation of children laps at the edges of acceptance, and how that cannot be; see many magazine ads (most recent one of Dakota Fanning for Marc Jacobs perfume).

(4) more victims will come forward and speak

(5) more witnesses will come forward and accuse

(6) We've all now thought what we would do in McQuery's situation -- we now have made the predetermined conscious choice to rescue the child (if that wasn't our instinctual reaction already)

(7) more parents will be aware of the obvious (to me) red flags: sleepovers; gifts; car rides alone

[jay santos]

Just another question that I find thought-provoking: What if McQueary had come upon Sandusky raping a 10 year-old girl? Would those who tend to be less critical of McQueary feel differently in that case? Why?

I can't possibly think why that would be any different.

If you're talking about a 16 year old or maybe even a 14 year old, where the victim could be exhibiting some sexuality, then this might come into play (ala the female teacher/male student cases). But this is a 10 year old. 10 year olds are or should be asexual in the eyes of an adult.

[LA Ute]

I can't possibly think why that would be any different.

If you're talking about a 16 year old or maybe even a 14 year old, where the victim could be exhibiting some sexuality, then this might come into play (ala the female teacher/male student cases). But this is a 10 year old. 10 year olds are or should be asexual in the eyes of an adult.

I agree. It seems to me that some observers (no one here, that I know of) seem to see anal rape of a little boy as somehow a lesser crime than a vaginal rape of a little girl. It just kind of adds perspective to think of it both ways. Both are horrible things to contemplate, so I won't continue.

[woot]

ESPN is under heavy fire for their inappropriate coverage throughout the ordeal. Apparently they were especially bad in their on-air stuff last night, but I didn't see any of it. I heard that they were inserting random PSU game footage during Paterno's press conference, which seems pretty heinous.

[Shaka]

Consider this factor in your analysis: Perhaps McQueary (as did a number of other football/athletic dept. personnel and administrators, including Paterno) knew no later that 1998 about Sandusky's pedophilia (or at least about allegations that had been made), and perhaps he knew that the athletic dept. had made a deal with Sandusky which resulted in a cover up.

In that context, seeing his close friend and mentor, in the act, perhaps it did not come as a complete surprise, and because he knew of/was part of the cover up, he goes to Paterno, rather than the police.

If any of this is close to true, then yes, I can understand a little better why McQueary responded as he did.

The incident McQueary witnessed was in 2002 I believe. He was only a grad assistant at the time. He may not have been privy to any cover up.

I hope you people don't think I'm trying to defend McQueary. Other than the victims for some reason I just personally struggle the most with his part of this sad story. I would really like to hear what he has to say.