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  • Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
    With what we saw and what Doman has said 10+ times by now, no I don't think your scenario is a possible explanation for what happened at the start of 2011.

    Funny that we hear Doman now using all the same language Anae used to use and the same philosophy on the offense.

    I really thought Doman was a smart enough guy to know that Bronco was not promoting him for his offensive genius and his plan to revamp the offense. He was promoted to keep Anae's system and be a much better motivator/developer/recruiter than Anae was. Doman's head got way too big and tried to be an offensive genius and fell flat on his face.
    We've already hashed and rehashed this, also. I think you're extremely overstating the change the offense took both from Anae 2010 to Doman first half 2011 and then again from Doman first half 2011 to second half 2011.

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    • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
      No. The last sentence doesn't make sense. If Jake Heaps is all-world, then the best thing for the program would have been to make it work. There would have been no "maximizing the program's value" but playing Nelson. The coaches may not be totally at fault, but the buck stops there.

      But none of that is true unless Heaps in fact turns out to be all world. As it is, he sucked. And I'm not shedding any tears.
      All-world QB's are not born all-world. Take out the names Heaps/Nelson/BYU. If a 5 star recruit goes to USC. They test him out early in his career and he just doesn't get it done, they put another QB over him. 5 star recruit gets offended and transfers and two years later becomes great. Nothing shocking there, and no one blames USC for what they did.

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      • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
        We've already hashed and rehashed this, also. I think you're extremely overstating the change the offense took both from Anae 2010 to Doman first half 2011 and then again from Doman first half 2011 to second half 2011.
        It is incredibly easy to see the difference just by watching the games, our offense in early 2011 was very similar to the offenses at Stanford, Wisconsin, and Bama, etc.. We just didn't have the o-line or the reps to run it with any level of success. Our offense by the end of the year was Anae's offense for all intents and purposes.

        Doman realized what he should have known early on that there is a reason not many teams run what Stanford, Bama, and Wisconsin run. Because you need nasty NFL like talent all along the offensive line to make it work.

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        • Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
          It is incredibly easy to see the difference just by watching the games, our offense in early 2011 was very similar to the offenses at Stanford, Wisconsin, and Bama, etc.. We just didn't have the o-line or the reps to run it with any level of success. Our offense by the end of the year was Anae's offense for all intents and purposes.

          Doman realized what he should have known early on that there is a reason not many teams run what Stanford, Bama, and Wisconsin run. Because you need nasty NFL like talent all along the offensive line to make it work.
          I'm not responding because we've done this already like 20 times, but I want to make it clear my non-answer is not agreement or backing down from my stance or a sign I think my position is weak.

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          • Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
            Being comfortable in an offense does wonders for accuracy on even simple throws. Comfort is the #1 thing for a pocket passer
            Quick someone buy him a security blanket.

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            • Originally posted by jay santos View Post
              All-world QB's are not born all-world. Take out the names Heaps/Nelson/BYU. If a 5 star recruit goes to USC. They test him out early in his career and he just doesn't get it done, they put another QB over him. 5 star recruit gets offended and transfers and two years later becomes great. Nothing shocking there, and no one blames USC for what they did.
              If USC had a desperate rookie OC who had never called a play and he was installing a new offense and then all the sudden the 5 star QB who looked pretty damn good at the end of his freshman year in the old offense can't do a thing and the team can't run the ball and then he benches the QB for a guy who comes in and just improvises his way to limited success. Then the 5 star QB is told he has to sit out with no chance to compete for his starting job for an entire year.

              Then the 5 star QB transferred elsewhere to a place with a competent and well tested offensive system and had a ton of success after 1 year of sitting out, you better believe USC would be blamed, especially by their fans.

              1 year doesn't turn a QB from completely incompetent to a worldbeater. It would mean that USC really mismanaged that QB.

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              • This is what happened the last time SC went with a highly recruited true freshman QB. This is the second game of his career. Worked out pretty well.

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                • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                  Quick someone buy him a security blanket.
                  If the OC needs one, then why doesn't the QB?
                  So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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                  • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                    This is what happened the last time SC went with a highly recruited true freshman QB. This is the second game of his career. Worked out pretty well.

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                    And that guy struggled for big streches in his sophomore season, good thing they stuck with him. He had a 4 game stretch where his QB rating was 102, sheesh he never should have seen the light of day again.

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                    • Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                      This is what happened the last time SC went with a highly recruited true freshman QB. This is the second game of his career. Worked out pretty well.

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                      • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                        Quick someone buy him a security blanket.
                        LOL. Oh wait. You didn't mean Hsaru did you..

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                        • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
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                          • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
                            LOL. Oh wait. You didn't mean Hsaru did you..
                            What's good for the OC and Jake cetainly would be good for Hsaru.

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                            • Originally posted by MarkGrace View Post
                              If the OC needs one, then why doesn't the QB?
                              They both had one. It's name was Riley.

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                              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                                They both had one. It's name was Riley.
                                Now he just needs to find his own. Anyone know a good suregon for arm replacement surgery?
                                So Russell...what do you love about music? To begin with, everything.

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