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The State of Utah Football, The Pac-12, and The 2011 Season
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With very rare exceptions, in a BYU-Utah football game I don't think I'd ever give the favorite more than a 60% chance or so. I'm more scientific than ox, so I'd place BYU's likelihood this year at 57.8%. I'd also have a higher percentage for a Utah win in its games against UW, Cal, UCLA and Colorado, but a bit lower against SC, Pitt and Wazzu.
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I am not scientific at all about the rivalry. All I can say is this: As I walked home from last fall's contest I simply marveled at the wild outcomes that rivalry game has produced almost every season for 20 years or so. I never predict the outcome of that one with any level of certainty.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostWith very rare exceptions, in a BYU-Utah football game I don't think I'd ever give the favorite more than a 60% chance or so. I'm more scientific than ox, so I'd place BYU's likelihood this year at 57.8%. I'd also have a higher percentage for a Utah win in its games against UW, Cal, UCLA and Colorado, but a bit lower against SC, Pitt and Wazzu.
That said, I am sure we will whip you blue-bellied maggots next fall.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Someone needs to wake up oxcoug and tell him it's not 1980 anymore.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostWith very rare exceptions, in a BYU-Utah football game I don't think I'd ever give the favorite more than a 60% chance or so. I'm more scientific than ox, so I'd place BYU's likelihood this year at 57.8%. I'd also have a higher percentage for a Utah win in its games against UW, Cal, UCLA and Colorado, but a bit lower against SC, Pitt and Wazzu.
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You walked home from RES to your place in LA? :rockon2:Originally posted by LA Ute View PostI am not scientific at all about the rivalry. All I can say is this: As I walked home from last fall's contest I simply marveled at the wild outcomes that rivalry game has produced almost every season for 20 years or so. I never predict the outcome of that one with any level of certainty.
That said, I am sure we will whip you blue-bellied maggots next fall."Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill
"I only know what I hear on the news." - Dear Leader
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Utah has a better chance to beat UW than Wazzu? huh?Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostWith very rare exceptions, in a BYU-Utah football game I don't think I'd ever give the favorite more than a 60% chance or so. I'm more scientific than ox, so I'd place BYU's likelihood this year at 57.8%. I'd also have a higher percentage for a Utah win in its games against UW, Cal, UCLA and Colorado, but a bit lower against SC, Pitt and Wazzu.
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Uh, no. I'd increase Utah's chance of beating UW to around 60% and lower its chances of beating the Lesser Cougs at around 70%, with homefield advantage playing into those numbers. Despite overall incompetence, Wazzu can rise up occasionally and surprise teams at home.Originally posted by Superdeluxe View PostUtah has a better chance to beat UW than Wazzu? huh?
But I'm always willing to concede that on football predictions, I often have no idea what I'm talking about.
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When it comes to the rivalry, outside of just a couple of years I almost always consider the game 50/50 with a slight advantage to the Home team. This year I am giving the Cougs a slight advantage. There is nothing about BYU's team that would make put the percent down that oxcoug did. Your % is much more realistic. You should be a scientist and not an attorney.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostWith very rare exceptions, in a BYU-Utah football game I don't think I'd ever give the favorite more than a 60% chance or so. I'm more scientific than ox, so I'd place BYU's likelihood this year at 57.8%. I'd also have a higher percentage for a Utah win in its games against UW, Cal, UCLA and Colorado, but a bit lower against SC, Pitt and Wazzu."Take it to the Bank"
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Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostWith very rare exceptions, in a BYU-Utah football game I don't think I'd ever give the favorite more than a 60% chance or so. I'm more scientific than ox, so I'd place BYU's likelihood this year at 57.8%.
It's actually 80.7%, I rounded down from the number produced by the algorithm.
'xactly.Originally posted by Hot Lunch View PostBYU must be BCS worthy
It isn't, yet it is. #9 is at QB and primed to break records and is the 4th QB of the Mendenhall era just like J Mac was the 4th QB of the Edwards era. #20 (Scott Phillips / Josh Quezada) is coming out of the backfield. And there's a president in the White House who won't hesitate to go a little cowboy with commandos unilaterally entering sovereign states.Originally posted by Top Ute View PostSomeone needs to wake up oxcoug and tell him it's not 1980 anymore.
Feels an awful lot like 1980 if you think about it.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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No, to where I was staying in Salt Lake. I didn't walk home to L.A. until the next day.Originally posted by il Padrino Ute View PostYou walked home from RES to your place in LA? :rockon2:“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I think you are forgetting the 2014 1st pick in the NFL draft Jake Heaps. We really have no chance. oxcoug was kind giving us a 20% chance of winning that game.Originally posted by Hot Lunch View PostWhen it comes to the rivalry, outside of just a couple of years I almost always consider the game 50/50 with a slight advantage to the Home team. This year I am giving the Cougs a slight advantage. There is nothing about BYU's team that would make put the percent down that oxcoug did. Your % is much more realistic. You should be a scientist and not an attorney.As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
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Maybe 1981. The White House tenant in 1980 was the brother of the man who brought us Billy Beer. The only thing I can remember Jimmy Carter going cowboy on was a rabbit that attacked his rowboat while he was fishing.Originally posted by oxcoug View Post...And there's a president in the White House who won't hesitate to go a little cowboy with commandos unilaterally entering sovereign states.
Feels an awful lot like 1980 if you think about it.
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I assume there's been some discussion of Kyle's BYU mentions in the interview w/ Urban (Urban, in adolescent middle age, remains allergic to the letters "B", "Y" and "U" in succession) on SC?
And I assume CU and PAC officials know that Kyle pretty decisively called BYU "our rival" before going on to say with a glimmer of pride that the years of acrimony haven't managed to snuff out "come on man! It's my alma mater!"
16.666% of PAC head coaches can say the same.
1981 it is.Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View PostMaybe 1981. The White House tenant in 1980 was the brother of the man who brought us Billy Beer. The only thing I can remember Jimmy Carter going cowboy on was a rabbit that attacked his rowboat while he was fishing.Last edited by oxcoug; 05-06-2011, 04:13 PM.Ute-ī sunt fīmī differtī
It can't all be wedding cake.
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I look forward to further analyses from both you and PAC. I want you to spend lots and lots of time thinking about how Urban and Kyle refer to BYU. When may we expect your next report?Originally posted by oxcoug View PostI assume there's been some discussion of Kyle's BYU mentions in the interview w/ Urban (Urban, in adolescent middle age, remains allergic to the letters "B", "Y" and "U" in succession) on SC?
And I assume CU and PAC officials know that Kyle pretty decisively called BYU "our rival" before going on to say with a glimmer of pride that the years of acrimony haven't managed to snuff out "come on man! It's my alma mater!"
16.666% of PAC head coaches can say the same.
1981 it is.
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Count on me! I always give Utah all of the time, attention and respect that it deserves.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostI look forward to further analyses from both you and PAC. I want you to spend lots and lots of time thinking about how Urban and Kyle refer to BYU. When may we expect your next report?
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Looks like Utah has a commitment from Travis Wilson.
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This looks like a very good get for the Utes.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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