Doman vs. Anae's offensive plan

[old_gregg]

for someone that doesn't know differences in blocking schemes, routes, which backers pick up what blitzes, holes, or anything about the mechanics of football, i'm sure a lot of the plays looked the same.

[byu71]

for someone that doesn't know differences in blocking schemes, routes, which backers pick up what blitzes, holes, or anything about the mechanics of football, i'm sure a lot of the plays looked the same.

Bullshit

[oxcoug]

Bullshit.

You and Stripper want to dismiss the predictability critique as the product of ignorant fans. You can't. It originated with players - some very serious, next-level caliber players - and it grew from there. At least that's how I first encountered it. Simply saying "bullshit" doesn't address that it's a serious critique from guys who know enough to make one.

And it's born out in things Anae himself said and did. Anae believes that with proper execution he can run plays he wants and get the desired results, often disregarding personnel - a classic example was the outside run to Kariya on 4th and 4 against UNR. It was explained later that they simply ran the play that they had planned for that scenario and Kariya was the back who happened to be in owing to the rotation and they expected he'd be able to execute it.....

Kariya isn't made to get to the corner under any circumstances, let alone on 4th and 4. Very few coaches would have believed that execution could compensate for the obvious need for different personnel in that situation. Anae, for some reason, did. With predictable results.

I've said before that he's an O Lineman who went on to coach the O Line for more than a decade and never really stopped thinking like an O Lineman - which tends to think that with appropriate technique and leverage he can always beat the other guy.

[jay santos]

You and Stripper want to dismiss the predictability critique as the product of ignorant fans. You can't. It originated with players - some very serious, next-level caliber players - and it grew from there. At least that's how I first encountered it. Simply saying "bullshit" doesn't address that it's a serious critique from guys who know enough to make one.

And it's born out in things Anae himself said and did. Anae believes that with proper execution he can run plays he wants and get the desired results, often disregarding personnel - a classic example was the outside run to Kariya on 4th and 4 against UNR. It was explained later that they simply ran the play that they had planned for that scenario and Kariya was the back who happened to be in owing to the rotation and they expected he'd be able to execute it.....

Kariya isn't made to get to the corner under any circumstances, let alone on 4th and 4. Very few coaches would have believed that execution could compensate for the obvious need for different personnel in that situation. Anae, for some reason, did. With predictable results.

I've said before that he's an O Lineman who went on to coach the O Line for more than a decade and never really stopped thinking like an O Lineman - which tends to think that with appropriate technique and leverage he can always beat the other guy.

Tell me what you thought we were gonna run that time it was down on the goal line (was it a two point conversion?) and we had double or triple tight end and one goes in motion right behind the left guard? I'm guessing you thought it was gonna be a run. Well it was a pass. (Interception)

How often do you have to pass out of a run formation to not be predictable? If you run 90% out of a certain formation, if you guess run you'll be right 90% of the time and you can bitch and moan on Cougarboard about how predictable it is and how often you're right. But what percent optimizes the play?

You could certainly make a case when you have a 40 lb advantage on the OL like we do in the MWC and with NFL FB's and Harvey Unga at RB that running 95% of the time on short yardage out of a running formation optimizes the outcome.

You could certainly make a case with Jake Heaps last year throwing an INT on the one yard line on a play action, that 1% passing in that situation is too much.

The bottom line is you can't predict it EVERY time because they always mix it up at least a little, ie the play action INT.

Further, there's no way for you to make a value judgment on whether the level of predictability (which is demonstrably lower than 100%), is optimal or not.

[jay santos]

Don't be so sure. I could call it about 70% of the time.

How far do you think you'll get as a defensive coordinator selling out to stop a play you were 70% sure about?

[byu71]

How far do you think you'll get as a defensive coordinator selling out to stop a play you were 70% sure about?

Who said I would sell out. What kind of defensive coordinator do you think I am anyway.

[jay santos]

You and Stripper want to dismiss the predictability critique as the product of ignorant fans. You can't. It originated with players - some very serious, next-level caliber players - and it grew from there. At least that's how I first encountered it. Simply saying "bullshit" doesn't address that it's a serious critique from guys who know enough to make one.

And it's born out in things Anae himself said and did. Anae believes that with proper execution he can run plays he wants and get the desired results, often disregarding personnel - a classic example was the outside run to Kariya on 4th and 4 against UNR. It was explained later that they simply ran the play that they had planned for that scenario and Kariya was the back who happened to be in owing to the rotation and they expected he'd be able to execute it.....

Kariya isn't made to get to the corner under any circumstances, let alone on 4th and 4. Very few coaches would have believed that execution could compensate for the obvious need for different personnel in that situation. Anae, for some reason, did. With predictable results.

I've said before that he's an O Lineman who went on to coach the O Line for more than a decade and never really stopped thinking like an O Lineman - which tends to think that with appropriate technique and leverage he can always beat the other guy.

How many times did the stretch run to Kariya work? answer: more than a couple.

Will the run it up the gut work every time or do you need to run it outside sometimes?

If Kariya's in at RB, is it PREDICTABLE to a D that he will run inside? Yes. But OMG there he is running it outside. I HAD NO IDEA HE WAS GONNA DO THAT! WE SOLD OUT TO STOP THE INSIDE RUN AND HE RAN IT OUTSIDE! lol, you people are all over the place. So he ran ineffective plays or he was predictable? Because I'm pretty sure he's not dumb enough to run bad plays in a predictable manner.

As for the players ripping on Anae, I think it's most likely politically motivated. You're barking up the wrong tree with Anae. He's the pass happy gun slinger from Texas Tech that they had to hold an intervention for to get him to decide to run the ball on occasion.

I really don't care. He's gone. I'm not his personal advocate. I just think it's silly to pin this stuff on him that's just not true.

[Flystripper]

Bump. This is an interesting read with hindsight.

[The_Douger]

I really thought Doman would be an upgrade going forward.

I sure was wrong on that.

[fusnik]

Ox is so cute here.

One thing is for sure, Doman is a hell sale guy. He convinced a significant college program that he had multiple offers from other major programs to run an offense even though he had never called an offensive play at ANY level. The byproduct being a HAVE to keep him attitude. (Some blame lays with Bronco since he has told many people he hates being a HC and doesn't want to coach for an extended period of time.)

Bronco has backed the wrong horse too many times.