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  • I'll bow out of this since it's none of my business. The only time I even looked up Chow's stats was when we were looking for a new OC, and there was a little talk of Chow on CB. I was just curious what the general feeling was. Sounds like it's optimistic.
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    • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
      What's "risky" about it? That we're seriously upgrading at the OC position? That UCLA is paying part of his salary?

      I can understand the argument that Chow isn't the same OC that helped usher in a decade of dominance for USC, or developed NFL QB after NFL QB at BYU in the '80's. But we don't lose a thing bringing him in.
      I agree. I'm a NoCho fan. I think this is a really nice hire for Utah. Frankly, it is a no brainer, at least in my opinion.
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      • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
        Nobody has to leave, since Pease retired. You let Whittingham coach the defensive line (which he has experience; he was the d-line coach in 1994), and you have Chow take over the OC position with heavy influence on the QB's while BJ continues to grow and mature as a coach.
        And what an opportunity for BJ. Say whatever you will about Chow (and I agree it's a great hire) there's so much knowledge in his head from so many years and so many great college QBs that BJ can't help but benefit.
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        • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
          Nobody has to leave, since Pease retired. You let Whittingham coach the defensive line (which he has experience; he was the d-line coach in 1994), and you have Chow take over the OC position with heavy influence on the QB's while BJ continues to grow and mature as a coach.
          So, You leave yourself short 1 defensive coach going into your first season in the PAC12, stretching your head coach even thinner, while having 2 Quarterback coaches? I know BJ is a popular guy, but is it really worth the risk?
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          • Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
            Nobody has to leave, since Pease retired. You let Whittingham coach the defensive line (which he has experience; he was the d-line coach in 1994), and you have Chow take over the OC position with heavy influence on the QB's while BJ continues to grow and mature as a coach.
            This week, Radio in San Diego was reporting that Rocky Long is pursuing Schramm to be OC at SDSU
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            • Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
              This week, Radio in San Diego was reporting that Rocky Long is pursuing Schramm to be OC at SDSU
              Schramm: Nice guy but Utah can stand to lose him.

              I'm a Chow naysayer. I don't think he will help out Utah very much. Known quantity, tired schemes, marginally better than what they were running with the second half of this past season, but Kyle could have gotten much better talent at this coaching position.

              We'll see if Chow proves me wrong.

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              • Originally posted by Katy Lied View Post
                Schramm: Nice guy but Utah can stand to lose him.

                I'm a Chow naysayer. I don't think he will help out Utah very much. Known quantity, tired schemes, marginally better than what they were running with the second half of this past season, but Kyle could have gotten much better talent at this coaching position.

                We'll see if Chow proves me wrong.
                He developed the talent. He's had an absurd number of quarterbacks win Heismans and succeed in the pros. It's less about the schemes. Sorry, I think Whit knows best. (Whit of course was a player when Chow was coach; it's a natural combination.)
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                • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                  He developed the talent. He's had an absurd number of quarterbacks win Heismans and succeed in the pros. It's less about the schemes. Sorry, I think Whit knows best. (Whit of course was a player when Chow was coach; it's a natural combination.)
                  I'm with SU. Every scheme is foolproof; it's getting the players and coaching them up that matters.

                  What does Chow have to do to get some love? He'll bring some stability to the offense. Great hire.
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                  • Originally posted by Solon View Post

                    What does Chow have to do to get some love?
                    Not fail miserably in this job like he has in his previous two.
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                    • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                      No. And please take your ageism elsewhere. He isn't that old anyway.
                      Shut up.
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                      • Ute fans can rejoice, Katy lied has made another football prediction. You are all but guaranteed some notable improvement in the offense and that NoCho will do well.
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                        • Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          He developed the talent. He's had an absurd number of quarterbacks win Heismans and succeed in the pros. It's less about the schemes. Sorry, I think Whit knows best. (Whit of course was a player when Chow was coach; it's a natural combination.)

                          Is two an "absurd number" over 30 years of coaching QBs?

                          That nitpicking aside - it's a good, solid hire by Utah. It's not going to change the field that much. But I think he'll do a solid job and give them some identity and organization that their program needs on the offensive side of the ball.
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                          • Originally posted by oxcoug View Post
                            Is two an "absurd number" over 30 years of coaching QBs?

                            That nitpicking aside - it's a good, solid hire by Utah. It's not going to change the field that much. But I think he'll do a solid job and give them some identity and organization that their program needs on the offensive side of the ball.
                            Between solid pros and Heismans:

                            Young (runner up for Heisman?)
                            Detmer
                            Rivers (one year)
                            Palmer
                            Leinhart
                            Cassel

                            Am I missing anyone?

                            That's a decent resume.
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                            • Originally posted by RedSox View Post
                              Between solid pros and Heismans:

                              Young (runner up for Heisman?)
                              Detmer
                              Rivers (one year)
                              Palmer
                              Leinhart
                              Cassel

                              Am I missing anyone?

                              That's a decent resume.
                              It is a very good resume - though if I wanted to nitpick I'd point out that
                              (a) there were a lot of people at BYU involved in developing Steve Young and Chow was just one of them - in fact, wasn't he officially the WR coach when Young was there?
                              (b) Of the three QBs he coached that were most successful he was with two of them for one year each (Rivers and Palmer) and never played the third (Cassell).

                              But anyway... that's all just for the fun of annoying SU. Chow is a good hire for Utah.
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                              • Originally posted by RedSox View Post
                                Between solid pros and Heismans:

                                Young (runner up for Heisman?)
                                Detmer
                                Rivers (one year)
                                Palmer
                                Leinhart
                                Cassel

                                Am I missing anyone?

                                That's a decent resume.
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