TCU to Big East

[FN Phat]

Set to join in 2012-13 in all sports according to multiple reports. Thought I'd post it since there hasn't been any other mention of it. Welcome to the WAC Boise, Fresno, and Nevada. With their departure I have to believe that this bodes well for Utah State. And the WAC is finished if Hawaii and USU bolt.

Good luck in basketball!

[LiveCoug]

Good luck in basketball!

I'd rather my team suck in the Big East than suck in the MWC

[wally]

I would like to be a fly on the wall of the Craig Thompson's performance review this year.

Does he get reamed for losing Utah, BYU and TCU, or does he successfully convince his reviewers as though he kept the MWC alive when it was at death's door?

[Sizzle]

I would like to be a fly on the wall of the Craig Thompson's performance review this year.

Does he get reamed for losing Utah, BYU and TCU, or does he successfully convince his reviewers as though he kept the MWC alive when it was at death's door?

Even though he lost three of the top 4 non-AQ schools this offseason, he probably replaced them with arguably the top non-AQ, and probably the two next best teams in Fresno and Nevada. The MWC absolutely gets worse without TCU, Utah and BYU, but the MWC could have very easily gone away had BYU left, Boise stayed in the WAC and Nevada/Fresno sticking around, especially since UNLV and SDSU probably jump back to the WAC.

[All-American]

All the more reason that BYU and independence was necessary, even if it wasn't desirable.

[doctorcoug]

Why can't BYU go to the Big East?

Because it's the big EAST.

[UtahDan]

I think this development makes BYU's move to independence a marginally better decision.

[SeattleUte]

All the more reason that BYU and independence was necessary, even if it wasn't desirable.

So Utah was the MWC's Texas. Some of us knew it all along.

[Moliere]

This seems like a win/win for the both parties. TCU gets what they probably deserve in being included in a BCS conference. The Big East gets some more respectability for football and a recruiting footprint in Texas.

The Big East is already a powerhouse basketball conference so adding TCU really doesn't dilute their standing and if anything it gives the good teams a patsy to beat up on in conference play.

The other winner is the BCS as it is now more validated with the only real non-AQ powerhouses (TCU, Utah, BYU) moving out of non-BCS conferences with only BYU still gasping for BCS love although our schedule (post transition period) and national prominence can only get better as an independent.

BSU is the loser in all of this, well not really the loser as they maintain the status quo but their opportunity to go anywhere is pretty much gone. I doubt the Pac-12 wants to add anyone else for the foreseeable future, especially given the table scraps they ended up with this past summer .

[SeattleUte]

The Big East basketball schools are going to clean up recruiting in Texas. Hoyas will roll!!!

[Devildog]

Good for TCU.

They will bring some legitimacy to the Big East in football.

[UtahDan]

This seems like a win/win for the both parties. TCU gets what they probably deserve in being included in a BCS conference. The Big East gets some more respectability for football and a recruiting footprint in Texas.

The Big East is already a powerhouse basketball conference so adding TCU really doesn't dilute their standing and if anything it gives the good teams a patsy to beat up on in conference play.

The other winner is the BCS as it is now more validated with the only real non-AQ powerhouses (TCU, Utah, BYU) moving out of non-BCS conferences with only BYU still gasping for BCS love although our schedule (post transition period) and national prominence can only get better as an independent.

BSU is the loser in all of this, well not really the loser as they maintain the status quo but their opportunity to go anywhere is pretty much gone. I doubt the Pac-12 wants to add anyone else for the foreseeable future, especially given the table scraps they ended up with this past summer .

Not to be a wiener, but I don't think BSU and BYU are in remarkably different positions in terms of how fans will experience their teams or win/loss records. Yes BYU will get more money at first, but my understanding is that the money is tied to eyeballs on the TV. If you don't win, interest will wain and so will the cash. Even if you do win, unless you are undefeated which is remarkably unlikely for any team, I'm not sure how that money translates into wins or more enjoyment for fans or players.

I understand the argument that it is better money no matter how you slice it and that there is more ability to schedule well. I agree with those, but I will be interested to see what November looks like for BYU in coming years. The most common scenario will be .500 in September, play mostly WAC teams at home later in the year, and by the last four games you aren't playing for anything but a mediocre bowl game. Maybe the bowls will be better than I think. That is sure possible. But I don't agree that more prominence is the only option. Even if you are more prominent, I see that as "helping BYU's mission" more than I do it enhancing recruit or the win/loss column. I'll say again that I think no conference title to play for is a massive negative.

[Blueintheface]

Not to be a wiener, but I don't think BSU and BYU are in remarkably different positions in terms of how fans will experience their teams or win/loss records. Yes BYU will get more money at first, but my understanding is that the money is tied to eyeballs on the TV. If you don't win, interest will wain and so will the cash. Even if you do win, unless you are undefeated which is remarkably unlikely for any team, I'm not sure how that money translates into wins or more enjoyment for fans or players.

I understand the argument that it is better money no matter how you slice it and that there is more ability to schedule well. I agree with those, but I will be interested to see what November looks like for BYU in coming years. The most common scenario will be .500 in September, play mostly WAC teams at home later in the year, and by the last four games you aren't playing for anything but a mediocre bowl game. Maybe the bowls will be better than I think. That is sure possible. But I don't agree that more prominence is the only option. Even if you are more prominent, I see that as "helping BYU's mission" more than I do it enhancing recruit or the win/loss column. I'll say again that I think no conference title to play for is a massive negative.

You're right. The Utes will get the money and the television sets, especially when they are hosting the PAC-10 championship game next fall.

[UtahDan]

You're right. The Utes will get the money and the television sets, especially when they are hosting the PAC-10 championship game next fall.

We have our own problems, I'm not talking about us. I think we will be .500 in our league next year and of course we don't get paid right away. Still, in time we will be getting the money, which by the way I have heard will be a lot more than people currently think, and Utah will be in a position to turn that money into wins. More money, better facilities, better assistants = better recruits and more wins. That is the five year plan anyway. Also, we will have a kick ass home conference schedule the whole time which will make things more enjoyable for fans. Non-football sports will get murdered initially. That is more like a 10 year project.

[Flystripper]

We have our own problems, I'm not talking about us. I think we will be .500 in our league next year and of course we don't get paid right away. Still, in time we will be getting the money, which by the way I have heard will be a lot more than people currently think, and Utah will be in a position to turn that money into wins. More money, better facilities, better assistants = better recruits and more wins. That is the five year plan anyway. Also, we will have a kick ass home conference schedule the whole time which will make things more enjoyable for fans. Non-football sports will get murdered initially. That is more like a 10 year project.

Hoops better not be a 10 year project. It only takes 1-2 great recruits in any given year to really help turn a basketball program around. If I were a Ute fan, I would not accept a ten year time frame for hoops especially in a period when the Pac 12 overall is very down.