OFFICIAL BYU vs. UNLV Thread

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  • Sizzle
    #ThisIsY
    • Nov 2008
    • 9004

    #256
    I'm anxious to go back and re-watch the game, but here are a few of my initial takeaways.

    1) BYU's run game is dreadfully predictable. If it is from the I formation with Kariya, it's a dive. If it is the I formation with JJ it is a stretch handoff. If they are two backs in the spread and it is a positive yardage situation, there is a 75% chance that they are running the trap. If it is the first play coming off of a turnover and they are lined up in the I, they are going play action and going up top. If they are lined up in the I with Hague as the fullback, there is a greater than 50% chance that it is play action. Seriously, I am going to make a decision tree playcalling chart in my spare time this weekend, and I would bet it would be pretty accurate. Note that this isn't just based on this years playcalling. Its been building up over the last, oh, five years or so. Having said that...

    2) I thought offensively they did a good job today putting guys in positions to make plays. Heaps throws were a little more on today, and the receivers actually did a good job of helping him out. Both TD passes the receivers made plays with Hoffman doing a good job going and getting the ball (almost had two more as well) and Ashworth turning a short pass into a 40-yard TD. There were still a few drops (Muehlman had one early, so did Matthews and JJ off the top of my head) but they did a better job catching balls that weren't necessarily perfectly thrown. I felt like they did a good job of getting receivers open and in positions to make plays. I really liked them moving Heaps around a little bit, and the out and up to McKay that looked "so" close was a great call. I thought it was a catch he could have made from my view, so I'm interested in seeing the replay. But I think that today's performance was the type that we thought we would see from Heaps a little earlier this year.

    3) I think the biggest factor in the win today though, is that UNLV is absolutely a terrible team and BYU finally got a week to get healthy and be ready to play. The result was a dominating performance that this team needed IMO. That isn't meant to take anything away from BYU, because they didn't make many/any mistakes. The same BYU team needs to show up next week against Colorado State, and we should be bowling.

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    • Sizzle
      #ThisIsY
      • Nov 2008
      • 9004

      #257
      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
      If Vegas had set the combined spreads of a BYU win and a Utah loss at 87, who would have thought one should have taken the over?
      I would have, but I thought BYU would only win by 2.

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      • Colly Wolly
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 1824

        #258
        Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
        I'm very pleased. Even the use of my AK would not sully this good day.
        After all the shit you've given me about gun ownership?

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        • TripletDaddy
          sweet triple
          • Nov 2008
          • 58186

          #259
          Originally posted by Colly Wolly View Post
          After all the shit you've given me about gun ownership?
          I only use it for target shooting.
          Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

          sigpic

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          • cougjunkie
            *Banned*
            • Nov 2008
            • 23223

            #260
            Anyone else notice Ezekial Ansah got in today. He is very raw but man he was flying off the edge.

            Alos by far our best pass rusher is Kyle Van Noy. He is ridiculous at one point in the game I noticed that they brought the tight end to his side and then rolled a running back over there. He was triple teamed and still almost got to the qb.
            *Banned*

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            • Flystripper
              Degenerate Gambler
              • Nov 2008
              • 14114

              #261
              Nice job Cougs. Nice job Jake. UNLV sucks but at least you made them look as bad as they are. Good teams crush bad teams. BYU probably still isn't a good team but they were good today.
              Dyslexics are teople poo...

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              • cougjunkie
                *Banned*
                • Nov 2008
                • 23223

                #262
                I rewatched the game again.

                A few things.

                The first deep ball to Mckay was on the money not sure how Mckay whiffed on that.

                Jake did an outstanding job reading the blitz and hitting the hot route today.

                The deep out to the far side of the field on 3rd and long to Ashworth was a thing of beauty. Also on the Ashworth TD BYU actually ran a pick route, both Hoffman and Ashworth went over hte middle and Hoffman rubbed Lukes man to give him just enough seperation. Throw in a great block by Q, and a nice move by Luke and we have 6.

                I noticed that Jake was just unloading today, he was not trying to be cute and put touch on the ball he was firing it. You could hear the ball pop as it hit the receivers in the hands. I think this helped with his accuracy.

                He did miss Hoffman on a deep ball down the middle of the field, but I am glad to see BYU take some shots.

                The defense was outstanding an athletic running quarterback was shut down by BYU which was nice. This team has a much different attitude since Bronco took over the defensive reins.

                Finally I have been saying it all year but I really like Falsev returning kicks also Hoffman has been great as well.

                Now on to CSU.
                *Banned*

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                • Sizzle
                  #ThisIsY
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 9004

                  #263
                  Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                  Finally I have been saying it all year but I really like Falsev returning kicks also Hoffman has been great as well.
                  Wondering if you (or anybody) has any insight as to why Falsev isn't seeing more time with the O? He seems like he would be a good receiver in the slot. Shifty, somebody who is pretty sure handed and can make some moves in the open field. I thought we would have seen him getting some reps with the O up to this point, but for whatever reason, he hasn't.

                  He seems like he can be a more talented Nate Meikle.

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                  • cougjunkie
                    *Banned*
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 23223

                    #264
                    Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
                    Wondering if you (or anybody) has any insight as to why Falsev isn't seeing more time with the O? He seems like he would be a good receiver in the slot. Shifty, somebody who is pretty sure handed and can make some moves in the open field. I thought we would have seen him getting some reps with the O up to this point, but for whatever reason, he hasn't.

                    He seems like he can be a more talented Nate Meikle.
                    I agree not sure what the deal is. I think we should put a few plays in specifically to get him the ball in space. He is lightening in a bottle I really like his ability to make gusy miss in the open field.
                    *Banned*

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                    • jay santos
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 13652

                      #265
                      Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                      Jay how was Jakes passer rating? Will you guys finally listen to me. I told you he is improving. Jake was outstanding today he was flinging the ball all over the place they started to open the playbook and let Jake sink or swam. He won a gold medal today.

                      Need to build on this going in to CSU.
                      I hate these situations where a player sucks and then the player's posse makes it a loyalty issue or something and if the guy gets better and has a good game or season or whatever they have to shove it in everyone's face. I want Heaps to succeed as much as anyone. Great game today. It gave me a lot of hope.

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                      • Sizzle
                        #ThisIsY
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 9004

                        #266
                        Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        I agree not sure what the deal is. I think we should put a few plays in specifically to get him the ball in space. He is lightening in a bottle I really like his ability to make gusy miss in the open field.
                        Listening to the post-game show on the drive home, the coaches all seem to love the kid as well. It really is a bit of a head scratcher for me why he hasn't seen more pt.

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                        • Portland Ute
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 5647

                          #267
                          Originally posted by NorthShoreCoug View Post
                          Between this game and the TCU game, in my mind BYU's chances at winning in RES has just gone up from 2% to 10%...
                          I'd say it's gone up a lot more than that.

                          Wynn looked like the same QB that played against TCU last year.

                          I'm extrapolating a bit, but I don't think he's going to look very good against BYU either.

                          I see Utah struggling to a Pitt type win vs. ND.

                          I see SDSU as a toss up.

                          I see the BYU game going down to the wire. BYU seems to have figured out the defensive side of the ball and Utah's defense is prone to be beaten deep. Apparently Heaps figured out how to throw completions today.

                          It's shaping up to be another close, hotly contested, utterly meaningless game to end the season.

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                          • Sizzle
                            #ThisIsY
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 9004

                            #268
                            Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                            I'd say it's gone up a lot more than that.

                            Wynn looked like the same QB that played against TCU last year.

                            I'm extrapolating a bit, but I don't think he's going to look very good against BYU either.

                            I see Utah struggling to a Pitt type win vs. ND.

                            I see SDSU as a toss up.

                            I see the BYU game going down to the wire. BYU seems to have figured out the defensive side of the ball and Utah's defense is prone to be beaten deep. Apparently Heaps figured out how to throw completions today.

                            It's shaping up to be another close, hotly contested, utterly meaningless game to end the season.
                            You are right, if you are Utah this year, you probably don't have much hope against BYU. Look at the comparison of this weeks opponents:

                            UNLV:
                            BYU +48
                            Utah +28

                            TCU:
                            BYU -28
                            Utah -40

                            BYU was 20 points better against UNLV, and 12 points better (15 if you give them the Home Field Advantage swing) against TCU. Average the 15 and the 20 together, and give BYU a 3-point deficit for playing in RES, and the Cougs are pretty much guaranteed to win by 2 TDs. Take it to the bank!

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                            • pellegrino
                              miserere me
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 12100

                              #269
                              Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                              I'd say it's gone up a lot more than that.

                              Wynn looked like the same QB that played against TCU last year.

                              I'm extrapolating a bit, but I don't think he's going to look very good against BYU either.


                              I see Utah struggling to a Pitt type win vs. ND.

                              I see SDSU as a toss up.

                              I see the BYU game going down to the wire. BYU seems to have figured out the defensive side of the ball and Utah's defense is prone to be beaten deep. Apparently Heaps figured out how to throw completions today.

                              It's shaping up to be another close, hotly contested, utterly meaningless game to end the season.

                              After seeing BYU's defense today, I agree with this. In fact, I think the Holy War will be a toss up, maybe even an edge to BYU simply because it may mean more to us this year.
                              Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                              God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                              Alessandro Manzoni

                              Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                              pelagius

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69810

                                #270
                                Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                                It's shaping up to be another close, hotly contested, utterly meaningless game to end the season.
                                Utterly meaningless? You are nuts.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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