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Is anyone more universally despised than Craig James? lol This is like OJ Simpson saying the Utes are overrated. Thank you Craig! (If you really hate us so badly you should send us one of your sons and then call Whittingham and hector him weekly about what a stupid coach he is becuase he doesn't play your coddled out of shape boy.)Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostCraig James thinks Utah is overrated he did not have them in his top 10 from Lya Wodraskas blog:When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.
--Jonathan Swift
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I think TCU is legit and utah is still relatively untested. They finally played a mediocre team and struggled.Originally posted by Surfah View PostThe fact of the matter is we still don't know how good this Utah team is. I think TCU is overrated also. I don't think either of these teams are comparable to any of their previous BCS busting teams.
However if they beat TCU then they deserve their ranking. If not they will fall and fall hard.*Banned*
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I think TCU is more legit than Utah at this point but I am still not overly impressed with them. I think last year's TCU team was much better than this one.Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostI think TCU is legit and utah is still relatively untested. They finally played a mediocre team and struggled.
However if they beat TCU then they deserve their ranking. If not they will fall and fall hard."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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Originally posted by Surfah View PostI think TCU is more legit than Utah at this point but I am still not overly impressed with them. I think last year's TCU team was much better than this one.
In reality, there hasn't been much for them to be overly excited about. Both TCU and Utah have been coasting through a JV schedule. My intuition tells me both are better than we have seen. Utah survived their wake up call and we are about to learn a lot about both teams.
Side note, BSU must be flipping out seeing TCU jump them in the poll. Whichever team wins this jumps BSU for good if they win out.
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I almost agree but we have to see how they do against each other. This Utah team doesn't have the QB the 2008 team had (in 2 years Wynn might be as good as BJ), and it doesn't have the killer linebackers or DBs we had in 2008 (yet). I always thought the 2011 Utes would be the "special" team, but this year's group may overachieve. It will be interesting to see.Originally posted by Surfah View PostThe fact of the matter is we still don't know how good this Utah team is. I think TCU is overrated also. I don't think either of these teams are comparable to any of their previous BCS busting teams.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I'll concede that point for Utah (a Pitt conference title would really help), but TCU is 2-0 vs. teams in the BCS top 30. Other teams with 2 games or less against BCS top 30: Stanford (1-1); Nebraska (2-0); Boise St (2-0); Oklahoma (1-1); Alabama (1-1); Ohio St (1-1); LSU (1-1); Oklahoma St (0-1).Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View PostIn reality, there hasn't been much for them to be overly excited about. Both TCU and Utah have been coasting through a JV schedule.
TCU's SOS (72) is also comparable to Ohio St (85) and Wisconsin (67)."I don't know the origin of said bitch booming."-Art Vandelay
"Hot Lunch posted awhile back on this. He knows more than anyone except for maybe BO."-Seattle Ute
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If Utah wins out I could see them being paired with an ACC team or Boise. A lot of stuff has to go right for Utah to make it to the championship game. As already covered, Oregon or Auburn would have to lose. I'd pray for LSU to beat Alabama to keep them out of the picture. If Utah wins this week, it will be interesting to see if they have enough to jump Boise. If Air Force and San Diego State continue winning, I think it might be enough by the end of the season. But there is a lot of sympathy among human pollsters for Boise. They have done everything possible in their power to get into the championship game.
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One thing Utah's 2008 run showed was how many bounces of the ball (so to speak) have to go right for any team to go undefeated. That's why BYU's 1984 accomplishment deserves respect.Originally posted by USU Coug View PostIf Utah wins out I could see them being paired with an ACC team or Boise. A lot of stuff has to go right for Utah to make it to the championship game. As already covered, Oregon or Auburn would have to lose. I'd pray for LSU to beat Alabama to keep them out of the picture. If Utah wins this week, it will be interesting to see if they have enough to jump Boise. If Air Force and San Diego State continue winning, I think it might be enough by the end of the season. But there is a lot of sympathy among human pollsters for Boise. They have done everything possible in their power to get into the championship game.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Assuming Utah beats the #3 team in the country, won't Utah have the much more impressive win? What would Boise have on Utah in that scenario?Originally posted by USU Coug View PostIf Utah wins out I could see them being paired with an ACC team or Boise. A lot of stuff has to go right for Utah to make it to the championship game. As already covered, Oregon or Auburn would have to lose. I'd pray for LSU to beat Alabama to keep them out of the picture. If Utah wins this week, it will be interesting to see if they have enough to jump Boise. If Air Force and San Diego State continue winning, I think it might be enough by the end of the season. But there is a lot of sympathy among human pollsters for Boise. They have done everything possible in their power to get into the championship game.
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If TCU wins:
Utah vs. OSU or ASU (or some other middle of the road Pac-10 team) in the Las Vegas Maaco bowl.
If Utah wins:
Utah vs. the Children of the Corn in the Fiesta Bowl."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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What are the Las Vegas Bowl rules? Does Utah have to go? (I.e., is the only "out" for the top remaining MWC team BCS bowl?) I am afraid I know the answer.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostIf TCU wins:
Utah vs. OSU or ASU (or some other middle of the road Pac-10 team) in the Las Vegas Maaco bowl.
If Utah wins:
Utah vs. the Children of the Corn in the Fiesta Bowl.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I believe the Las Vegas Bowl has first choice of the MWC teams that are not invited to a BCS bowl. Utah could stay home, I guess, and let some other MWC team go.Originally posted by LA Ute View PostWhat are the Las Vegas Bowl rules? Does Utah have to go? (I.e., is the only "out" for the top remaining MWC team BCS bowl?) I am afraid I know the answer."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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I am sure we will go if that's the bowl we get. But yuck.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostI believe the Las Vegas Bowl has first choice of the MWC teams that are not invited to a BCS bowl. Utah could stay home, I guess, and let some other MWC team go.“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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