Originally posted by Surfah
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Agree. However, UT and OU were never really in the bag-especially OU. CU had been flirting with the PAC-10 for many years and you are correct that CU was gone from the Big 12 as soon as they got an invite from the PAC-10. When the PAC-10 and UT couldn't come to terms, Scott could have said "Not now" to CU and stayed at 10 teams. But the circumstance that changed that outcome was Nebraska getting wind of the PAC-12 discussions and consequently approaching Jim Delany about a possible invite to the Big Ten. When Nebraska to the Big Ten materialized, Scott had additional incentive to get the PAC-10 to 12 teams and went forward with inviting CU and got Utah on the phone.“Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
"All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel
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I think it is fair to give Hill significant credit for getting Utah in the Pac. He has been a fabulous AD for the U and has done well, IMO, with their two major programs. Certainly, just as external circumstances play a huge role in keeping BYU out external circumstances benefitted Utah. I expect the ever powerful ec to be in BYU's favor here shortly!Originally posted by Surfah View PostWhoa. Hill did not guide Utah to a P5 unless you are talking about hiring Urban which led to the undefeated season and BCS bowl. Then sure. But the fact of the matter Utah was just sitting there when Larry Scott thought that he had Texas and Oklahoma in the bag. He offered Colorado and they accepted immediately, Oklahoma and Texas stayed put and now he was stuck with Colorado and had to add someone. If he had withheld that invitation to Colorado and then learned that Texas and Oklahoma weren't coming the Pac would still have 10 teams today. It was more luck and circumstance than anything.
But I feel for him about the unfair treatment of Utah when they play BYU. Just as BYU is rueing it carrying on in the 80's that Utah was not really a rival these conditions change in time. Hill was around in those days and it appears he did not forgive.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
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I want to play Utah. I would appeal to their better selves. Believe it or not, USU was once a football powerhouse in the state and BYU hardly ever beat them.
When BYU became dominant over USU, did we stick our nose up to them? No, we kept treating them very well with home and homes. Utah could learn something from how we acted.
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Hill has you all fooled just like his dumb fan base. They didn't swap out BYU for Michigan, they swapped BYU for Fresno State. Hill said the schedule would be too hard with both BYU and Michigan on it. He is a whiny little bitch that is the perfect representative of that entire fan base. I am embarrassed to share a state with those ass clowns. I wish Isis would crash a plane right in to the middle of the stadium during that game.*Banned*
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I've never heard this audio from (what I assume to be) the Utah radio guys. Lol. "Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?" and "What?"Originally posted by Joe Public View PostMost-watched game in SLC? He must not be counting highlights:
[YOUTUBE]GdbtLEFbuew[/YOUTUBE]"Seriously, is there a bigger high on the whole face of the earth than eating a salad?"--SeattleUte
"The only Ute to cause even half the nationwide hysteria of Jimmermania was Ted Bundy."--TripletDaddy
This is a tough, NYC broad, a doctor who deals with bleeding organs, dying people and testicles on a regular basis without crying."--oxcoug
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Yipes!! I was kidding when I said you were sniffing jock straps. Now I am not so sure and it is affecting you like a bad drug.Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostHill has you all fooled just like his dumb fan base. They didn't swap out BYU for Michigan, they swapped BYU for Fresno State. Hill said the schedule would be too hard with both BYU and Michigan on it. He is a whiny little bitch that is the perfect representative of that entire fan base. I am embarrassed to share a state with those ass clowns. I wish Isis would crash a plane right in to the middle of the stadium during that game.
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Thread winner!Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostHill has you all fooled just like his dumb fan base. They didn't swap out BYU for Michigan, they swapped BYU for Fresno State. Hill said the schedule would be too hard with both BYU and Michigan on it. He is a whiny little bitch that is the perfect representative of that entire fan base. I am embarrassed to share a state with those ass clowns. I wish Isis would crash a plane right in to the middle of the stadium during that game."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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Thanks for saying something. I hadn't ever listened to that audio either. It is NEARLY as funny as the audio of Beck to Harline.Originally posted by Lost Student View PostI've never heard this audio from (what I assume to be) the Utah radio guys. Lol. "Oh my gosh, are you kidding me?" and "What?"
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Stop pulling your punches. Tell us how you really feel about Hill and Utah.Originally posted by cougjunkie View PostHill has you all fooled just like his dumb fan base. They didn't swap out BYU for Michigan, they swapped BYU for Fresno State. Hill said the schedule would be too hard with both BYU and Michigan on it. He is a whiny little bitch that is the perfect representative of that entire fan base. I am embarrassed to share a state with those ass clowns. I wish Isis would crash a plane right in to the middle of the stadium during that game.
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That clip is extremely tasty. I wish that could be put on a loop at RES at halftime somehow at one of their awesome games.Originally posted by Joe Public View PostMost-watched game in SLC? He must not be counting highlights:
[YOUTUBE]GdbtLEFbuew[/YOUTUBE]"I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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