Poll: Are you happy about the Indy/WCC News

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  • Color Me Badd Fan
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 12519

    #16
    I'm not sure what his connections are, but TN Coug is saying that BYU has scheduled 2-3 more BCS schools for 2011 and ND may actually happen next year. These games will apparently be announced tomorrow. He's claiming that he knows what they are but can't tell the board.

    Of course, the rumor/info is worth what I paid for it. It wouldn't surprise me. I looked at the schedules for a huge number of teams and a ton of schools have open slots.
    Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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    • Color Me Badd Fan
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 12519

      #17
      Originally posted by beefytee View Post
      There are no 1-AA's this year. I can pretty much guarantee that there will be next year (if they play an independent schedule).
      One 1-AA school is very likely.

      I do think the limited TV exposure (CBSCS, VS. the mtn) probably caused some problems for BYU. First, a lot of schools don't want to schedule competitive nonconference opponents and they're really not going to want to schedule them when they play on some network no one gets. They want their games on display to sell themselves to recruits.
      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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      • jay santos
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 13652

        #18
        It's very hard to form an opinion on this without knowing the expectations and probabilities for future Big 12 or other changes.

        Another factor is that the MWC of 2012 is not going to be what it feels like today. With no Utah and the addition of Nevada and Fresno and moving to divisions where you don't play everyone twice in BB, it will be a serious step down from what it is today, and that should be factored.

        Overall, I'd say I'm fairly neutral about the whole thing. If I knew we'd be in the WCC for five years, I'd say It was a bad move.

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        • Top Ute
          Junior Member
          • May 2010
          • 2194

          #19
          Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
          Means to an end.
          If that end doesn't consist of a Big 12 invite, the "end" will come via elimination of your athletic program at worst; at best, a complete and total afterthought in the collegiate sports world.

          BYU joined the Sewanee/University of the South, Tulane University and the University of Chicago in making significantly backward steps in the relevance of their athletic programs. It's not a good list if you're looking to become/retain athletic dominance status.

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          • cougjunkie
            *Banned*
            • Nov 2008
            • 23223

            #20
            Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
            If that end doesn't consist of a Big 12 invite, the "end" will come via elimination of your athletic program at worst; at best, a complete and total afterthought in the collegiate sports world.

            BYU joined the Sewanee/University of the South, Tulane University and the University of Chicago in making significantly backward steps in the relevance of their athletic programs. It's not a good list if you're looking to become/retain athletic dominance status.
            At best going independent means we are an afterthought in the college sports world. ESPN seems to think differently than you. Don't you have a high school football game to cover out there in Wichitard?
            *Banned*

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            • USUC
              Chronic Poseur
              • Apr 2010
              • 8775

              #21
              This probably means Hawaii joins BYU in independence. I wonder what this means for Utah State? The Utah audience is now gone from the mtn. They won't make up much ground with Utah State, but at least its something for them.

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              • Top Ute
                Junior Member
                • May 2010
                • 2194

                #22
                Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                At best going independent means we are an afterthought in the college sports world. ESPN seems to think differently than you. Don't you have a high school football game to cover out there in Wichitard?
                Dude, your games are going to be broadcast on Tuesday and Wednesday nights on ESPN. Just like Boise was going to fill Utah's spot on the MWC schedule, your ESPN games will fill out Boise's spots on ESPN. Hell, your FSU game this year ranks dead last of five games on ESPN/ABC's priority list for games its broadcasting that night. Get a clue.

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                • scottie
                  Junior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 5247

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Tone Loc View Post
                  to come out soon (in football of course). At least I have heard that from a 'source'. Not sure how reliable, but he does have connections to the program.
                  It really is good to have you back, Rocky.

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                  • creekster
                    It is NOT a monkey!
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22661

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                    Dude, your games are going to be broadcast on Tuesday and Wednesday nights on ESPN. Just like Boise was going to fill Utah's spot on the MWC schedule, your ESPN games will fill out Boise's spots on ESPN. Hell, your FSU game this year ranks dead last of five games on ESPN/ABC's priority list for games its broadcasting that night. Get a clue.
                    Get a clue? Your Eeyore worthy prognostications made from what ever little berg you are sitting in are based solely on the hubrisitic premise that you, the one and only Top Ute, know far more than the people running the program at BYU and the people at ESPN singing the contracts. So who needs a clue?

                    Look, no one is claiming this is the best situation ever, but only you are claiming it will lead to the demise of the BYU sports programs.

                    At least your posts make me smile. They can be downright comical.
                    PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                    • Jeff Lebowski
                      Corporate lackey for Jesus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 69408

                      #25
                      Originally posted by USU Coug View Post
                      This probably means Hawaii joins BYU in independence. I wonder what this means for Utah State? The Utah audience is now gone from the mtn. They won't make up much ground with Utah State, but at least its something for them.
                      I hope USU takes our place in the Mtn. They deserve something.
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                      • cougjunkie
                        *Banned*
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 23223

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                        Dude, your games are going to be broadcast on Tuesday and Wednesday nights on ESPN. Just like Boise was going to fill Utah's spot on the MWC schedule, your ESPN games will fill out Boise's spots on ESPN. Hell, your FSU game this year ranks dead last of five games on ESPN/ABC's priority list for games its broadcasting that night. Get a clue.
                        Dude, that is some serious wishful thinking on your part that this will lead to the demise of BYUs program. I know that is what you are hoping for how many athletic departments have you ran in your lifetime? I am glad that you and your fellow ute fans know what is best for BYU.

                        Did you notice that nobody talked about the MWC being dead when Utah left, the MWC added a better program in Boise and moved on. However Craig Thompson did everything in his power to keep BYU from leaving, I mean everything. ESPN the largest sports conglomerate in the world approached BYU about doing a deal as an independent, so obviously there is some value there.

                        Like I said go back in to your moms basement, open a fresh bag of cheetos and give us a nice write up on the local high school game. You obviously do not know shit about anything else.
                        Last edited by cougjunkie; 08-31-2010, 05:12 PM.
                        *Banned*

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                        • venkman
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2199

                          #27
                          Lol, I think I voted for all but one choice. I still don't know what to think.
                          "Remember to double tap"

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                          • CardiacCoug
                            вот так штука
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11013

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                            If that end doesn't consist of a Big 12 invite, the "end" will come via elimination of your athletic program at worst; at best, a complete and total afterthought in the collegiate sports world.

                            BYU joined the Sewanee/University of the South, Tulane University and the University of Chicago in making significantly backward steps in the relevance of their athletic programs. It's not a good list if you're looking to become/retain athletic dominance status.
                            The current situation in the MWC with the Comcast/MTN/CSTV/Versus deal pretty much makes BYU and the rest of the conference a "total afterthought in the collegiate sports world." It can't get any worse.

                            Sure, moving to the WCC is a step backward for the rest of the sports. But if this move:

                            1. Puts BYU football (and basketball) on ESPN several times a year,

                            2. Increases revenue and visibility for the athletic department (getting rid of the "mid-major" label and helping us keep pace with Utah and other BCS teams), and

                            3. Has even a moderate possibility of facilitating a move to the Big 12,

                            then I think it's a reasonable move. Would we rather have an invite in hand to the Big 12? Sure. But this doesn't seem like a crazy move to me, even if the Big 12 invite doesn't happen.
                            Last edited by CardiacCoug; 08-31-2010, 05:32 PM.

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                            • Blueintheface
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 15382

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Top Ute View Post
                              Dude, your games are going to be broadcast on Tuesday and Wednesday nights on ESPN. Just like Boise was going to fill Utah's spot on the MWC schedule, your ESPN games will fill out Boise's spots on ESPN. Hell, your FSU game this year ranks dead last of five games on ESPN/ABC's priority list for games its broadcasting that night. Get a clue.
                              Wow. Where to start. Here's a start. :finger3:

                              In case your didn't catch that: FUCK YOU!
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                              • Spicy McHaggis
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 178

                                #30
                                So how likely is a Big12 invite? It sounds like most byu fans are confident the invite is right around the corner but what is preventing the Big12 from inviting byu right now?
                                I don't understand why they need to wait until NU and CU leave in order to invite byu right now.

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