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No, seriously, you guys need to keep coming up with ideas like this one. Keep 'em coming.Originally posted by ERCougar View PostYou're a lying Ute.
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lol, as we all know the SEC, Big 12 and ACC have made it a habit to schedule byes the week before the SEC championship game. Too bad 11 of the 12 SEC teams didn't succumb to this habit last year (however SEC powerhouse Vanderbilt was the lone SEC team that did listen to your sage scheduling advice).Originally posted by SloanHater View PostOnce again, why would Utah help BYU out by playing them in November? Assuming Utah goes undefeated through the Pac 12 schedule, why risk a loss and shot at a national title by playing BYU? Not to mention they will have a conference championship game to prepare for and thus would want a bye week.
I know Dr. Hill is smart enough to recognize this as well.
Here's a sampling of games that will be taking place on November 27, 2010:
Georgia vs. Georgia Tech
USC vs. Notre Dame
Florida vs. Florida State
Why the hell are these teams doing this?
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I personally think that it is an AWESOME idea!Originally posted by ERCougar View PostMy favorite thing about independence, and perhaps the best evidence of its benefits, is that Ute fans (for the life of me, I can't figure out why they care...) universally think its such a bad idea.
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You seem to have forgotten - teams with a BCS conference affiliation don't have to worry about beating BYU in order to get into a BCS game. They have to worry about winning their conference.Originally posted by SloanHater View PostWe're talking about BYU. Boise has earned its street cred. How many undefeated years and BCS wins will it take BYU?
I suppose if there is a team that thinks it might be top 14 but figures to lose the conference championship - those teams would not want a challenge. Or I suppose if a team figured it was going to win their conference and didn't want a team like BYU to keep them from getting into the BCS Championship Game, that could cause them to not want to play BYU.
But let's be realistic here. How many BCS teams are there that think they are good enough to win their conference and think they deserve a shot at the championship and are afraid of playing BYU? I'm going to go with "not many". Though I will submit that there may be some who would like a more cupcake schedule outside of conference. However - the moment they do that they also potentially give up any shot at the championship if a team with a tougher OOC schedule has a similar record.
And all of this goes without saying the fact that BYU's record for beating good teams is probably no better than their reputation for getting ranked and then losing to good teams - giving a champion wannabe a leg up in the BCS rankings.
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Because its our tithing money being wasted.Originally posted by ERCougar View PostMy favorite thing about independence, and perhaps the best evidence of its benefits, is that Ute fans (for the life of me, I can't figure out why they care...) universally think its such a bad idea.
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Which leaves BYU with little wiggle room to move up the polls Oct. and Nov. I'm starting to like the idea of a September Holy War more and more.Originally posted by creekster View PostThen he doesnt. So be it. But I am pretty sure it will get worked out, one way or the other. Keeping Utah in Novembers i notthe key to the move, although it would be nice. It seems one Ute fan here is a little delusional about how important that timing is.
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My favorite thing about independence, and perhaps the best evidence of its benefits, is that Ute fans (for the life of me, I can't figure out why they care...) universally think its such a bad idea.Originally posted by SloanHater View PostBYU fans are delusional at this point. Fortunately I know Dr. Hill isn't naive enough to agree to scheduling BYU right before a possible conference championship game.
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Then he doesnt. So be it. But I am pretty sure it will get worked out, one way or the other. Keeping Utah in Novembers i notthe key to the move, although it would be nice. It seems one Ute fan here is a little delusional about how important that timing is.Originally posted by SloanHater View PostBYU fans are delusional at this point. Fortunately I know Dr. Hill isn't naive enough to agree to scheduling BYU right before a possible conference championship game.
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I'm going to say that the sky is neither falling nor raining gold coins.
BYU's independence could, in the end, be a very bad thing. Or it could be a very good thing. Personally, I think it is going to take some time to know how this will all turn out. I won't fault them for attempting to better their situation. I will fault them if it becomes much worse than it was and they do nothing to correct that.
In the meantime, the fact that I live in Utah has me fairly confident that all football and most basketball games will be easily accessible for me. If I lived outside of the intermountain west, I would be a little more nervous about that. I don't, so I'm not.
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We're talking about BYU. Boise has earned its street cred. How many undefeated years and BCS wins will it take BYU?Originally posted by Eddie View PostBoise didn't get in because Utah had the same record against better competition. TCU, BYU, and Utah won't all be playing each other in the MWC anymore. Boise could essentially determine that (outside of TCU) what is left of the MWC is no worse than what they have in the WAC. And that they would now have an even shot at a BCS game if they had an equal record to TCU.
On the other hand, they could also determine that they would be playing TCU every year to see who gets to go. I'm sure they were thinking that they would be playing BYU and TCU every year for this. As that changes, the MWC schedule loses some of its appeal.
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BYU fans are delusional at this point. Fortunately I know Dr. Hill isn't naive enough to agree to scheduling BYU right before a possible conference championship game.Originally posted by creekster View PostMoney, my boy, money.
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pantywaists, the lot of you.Originally posted by SloanHater View PostOnce again, why would Utah help BYU out by playing them in November? Assuming Utah goes undefeated through the Pac 12 schedule, why risk a loss and shot at a national title by playing BYU? Not to mention they will have a conference championship game to prepare for and thus would want a bye week.
I know Dr. Hill is smart enough to recognize this as well.
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