Will Heaps Transfer

[Green Monstah]

Look at where they played, the competition they played against and look at their size. You can't compare it. Also, there aren't many that do what Mark and Matt have done. Very few now a days.

If you don't think Terrell Pryor will play in the NFL please see Vince Young as an example as to how Terrell will end up an early NFL draft pick. For the record, I don't like Terrell and I would never take a chance on him but he is a freak of an athlete and he will be picked very high.

Maybe I'm a complete idiot....but I think he'll be a late draft pick...free agent.

[wally]

I don't mind Riley Nelson starting out the year. BYU starts with two decent opponents and they're definitely winnable games. The question for me centers only on two things in descending order:

1. Which QB gives you the best chance to win those first two games?

2. Will you wreck your true freshman QB if you throw him to the wolves too early?

I bet that rookie QBs in the NFL have a better track record than true freshmen QBs in college. The transition from college to the NFL is a jump, but it seems like the transition from high school to college is an even bigger jump.

Rather than deal with the true freshmen jitters against UW and AF, Nelson should start because those are two winnable games. Heaps can get some PT against those two teams along with SDSU, USU and Nevada. Let Nelson get hammered by Florida State and TCU. After the TCU game, Heaps can be brought in for a more full time role. The four games after TCU are Wyoming, UNLV, Colorado State and New Mexico- three of them are at home.

But what if they Nelson plays well enough to earn the starting role? Wouldn't Heaps have to take a hard look at transfering in that situation?

[Green Monstah]

Didn't Tim Tebow backup Leak his freshman year? It's pretty rare -- almost unheard of -- for a true freshman to start in D1 football. I'm sure Heaps realizes that and knows that his time will come.

I'd like to see him redshirt this year, backup Nelson next year and start his final three years. That's plenty of time to show the Scouts what they need to see.

[wally]

It worked for Matt Cassel.

But that's the point. Matt Cassel is the extreme exception to the rule. Plus as Hot Lunch already pointed out, BYU is no USC.

[MarkGrace]

There's no theory about it. When you prepare for a team the quarterbacks get the same information and watch the same film. Then they go on the practice field and the scout team simulates what the other team does. The starter gets the most reps but as last year's backup Nelson got all the same info, watched the same film, and got the same spiel from the coaches as Max. He also got the backup reps.

This is the stuff a freshman, even one who came in the spring, hasn't yet experienced. Having spent a season in the system is one advantage Nelson has over Heaps.

I guess I don't understand your point, then. If Nelson came into this season will all this advantage and edge of experience (playing at USU, backing up last year, etc.), why hasn't that manifest itself? He doesn't seem to be performing better than Heaps, he doesn't seem to grasp the offense better than Heaps, he doesn't seem to be doing anything better than Heaps other than running the ball. What has his experienced translated into, exactly?

He spent a lot of time on the field at USU, yet was benched toward the end. He played at USU, went through game prep all last year, but when he got in games looked like it was his first time ever in a pocket. And now with all this experience, he still struggled big time in game-like situations this fall. I don't see where his experience is giving him any advantage or will give him any advantage going forward.

[falafel]

But that's the point. Matt Cassel is the extreme exception to the rule. Plus as Hot Lunch already pointed out, BYU is no USC.

Yeah, but this isn't a Matt Cassel situation either. At worst Heaps would sit for two years and then start for two years. Cassel never made a single start as QB.

[Hot Lunch]

Maybe I'm a complete idiot....but I think he'll be a late draft pick...free agent.

Well there are idiots in the NFL front offices. See the retards that drafted Tim Tebow. I am not a fan of Pryor but I would be surprised if he was drafted later than the second round. Scouts will go crazy over his athleticism.

[wally]

Yeah, but this isn't a Matt Cassel situation either. At worst Heaps would sit for two years and then start for two years. Cassel never made a single start as QB.

But wasn't the point of skipping his mission to play (start) ASAP?

[falafel]

But wasn't the point of skipping his mission to play (start) ASAP?

I don't know what the point was. But if he came in with an expectation that he would start as a true freshman (and knowing Bronco's normal approach to promising players time), then he has deluded himself.

Besides, if he thinks he's good enough to start as a freshman, think of what a year in the system would do for him.

[Surfah]

Well there are idiots in the NFL front offices. See the retards that drafted Tim Tebow. I am not a fan of Pryor but I would be surprised if he was drafted later than the second round. Scouts will go crazy over his athleticism.

I am slowly converting to the tribe of Tebow. I may be retarded.

[MarkGrace]

The Heaps/Nelson competition reminds me a lot of Hall vs Cooper....granted that Nelson has shown better than Cooper did, however As someone who has covered BYU for 8 years, I'd be shocked if Nelson were named as the outright starter at this point

all I heard on the radio while driving home was how Nelson closed the gap today, while he had a good day today, I didn't see anything that......indicated that he's anywhere different in the QB race as he was after Saturday. Exactly 3 of his reps were against the 1s on defense... ...while he did well, it should be noted that Heaps had all his reps against the 1s and had a lot of dropped passes ending his sets

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[Jacob]

But what if they Nelson plays well enough to earn the starting role? Wouldn't Heaps have to take a hard look at transfering in that situation?

No.

But he may want to reconsider his chosen career of NFL quarterback.

[Green Monstah]

Well there are idiots in the NFL front offices. See the retards that drafted Tim Tebow. I am not a fan of Pryor but I would be surprised if he was drafted later than the second round. Scouts will go crazy over his athleticism.

Well, if he can put together a season like Vince Young's last year, you'll definitely be right.

[Green Monstah]

By the way....what is an ALUF?

[MarkGrace]

By the way....what is an ALUF?

A type of person about as real as a unicorn.