2023 BYU Football:The First Year of The Quorum of the BIG12

[Shaka]

This is a prime example of whoever wins the turnover battle wins the game.

I'm an ARod supporter but I absolutely hated running on 3rd and 17 with seven minutes left. I get that call earlier in the game but not with so little time left. You have to take a shot.

[Green Monstah]

Sucks to lose. No doubt about it. But at least these guys are alive and fighting. Lots of good plays. That pick six, though. brutal. I think we have our starting QB next year.

[USUC]

That's a really bad takeaway from this game. We played much better than the previous 3 games and no one expected us to almost upset ranked Oklahoma.

The time out management was so dumb. I suspect the pick 6 was as well but I don't know if it was an RPO or what. That was the back breaker.

[beefytee]

Went to the game.

Fun game. Disappointing to lose. The pick 6 was the differences. I think we would have won with Slovis.

Seats were filled around me.

The students who stayed home today really suck. The empty ROC was embarrassing.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Sucks to lose. No doubt about it. But at least these guys are alive and fighting. Lots of good plays. That pick six, though. brutal. I think we have our starting QB next year.

Yeah, it hurts to lose a game we could have won, but I would much rather lose like this with a great effort but bad luck with turnovers than the way we played in the prior recent losses.

[BigPiney]

Yeah, it hurts to lose a game we could have won, but I would much rather lose like this with a great effort but bad luck with turnovers than the way we played in the prior recent losses.

Looked so much better than last week.

[beefytee]

The other issue is that the NCAA has to figure out substitutions. The current rule isn’t working. Defensive players are strolling off the field eating up the play clock. Just saw Tennessee do it against Georgia too. It isn’t just Oklahoma.

[Bo Diddley]

The other issue is that the NCAA has to figure out substitutions. The current rule isn’t working. Defensive players are strolling off the field eating up the play clock. Just saw Tennessee do it against Georgia too. It isn’t just Oklahoma.

Yeah, that was dumb.

[Omaha 680]

This is a prime example of whoever wins the turnover battle wins the game.

I'm an ARod supporter but I absolutely hated running on 3rd and 17 with seven minutes left. I get that call earlier in the game but not with so little time left. You have to take a shot.

The pick 6 call was worse. Like throwing a slant instead of handing off to Marshawn Lynch level stupidity. Kody said in the post game interview that it was an RPO which makes it only slightly better. Why put your inexperienced QB in that situation in first and goal from the 2 when you just rolled over the defense for 70 yards in three plays on the ground to get there? I just don't get it. I generally support ARod as well but coaches just outsmart themselves.

[Bo Diddley]

The pick 6 call was worse. Like throwing a slant instead of handing off to Marshawn Lynch level stupidity. Kody said in the post game interview that it was an RPO which makes it only slightly better. Why put your inexperienced QB in that situation in first and goal from the 2 when you just rolled over the defense for 70 yards in three plays on the ground to get there? I just don't get it. I generally support ARod as well but coaches just outsmart themselves.

Yep. And sure, hindsight is always 20/20, but BYU was absolutely gashing them with the run.

[All-American]

The pick 6 call was worse. Like throwing a slant instead of handing off to Marshawn Lynch level stupidity. Kody said in the post game interview that it was an RPO which makes it only slightly better. Why put your inexperienced QB in that situation in first and goal from the 2 when you just rolled over the defense for 70 yards in three plays on the ground to get there? I just don't get it. I generally support ARod as well but coaches just outsmart themselves.

It was a coaching error for Retzlaff to believe that was a throwing situation.

I do not think the play call was itself a coaching error. The RPO is a run-first play, with a passing option. You can pass it if it is wide open (like if 11 men are in the box, selling out to stop the run). Short of that, he needed to hand it off.

So why give him a play that even has that option? Because it keeps the defense honest. This play actually shows that point: the defender goes screaming over to cover the receiver instead of sticking around to stop the run. They see the RPO and they know they have to cover it. So, it draws a defender away. Great—except the right call in that situation was to hand it off.

The play the coaches called was supposed to be a run. Not handing it off was a mistake with brutal consequences. But I don’t think they called the wrong play; they just didn’t run the play right. Still a coaching error but an error of a very different kind.

[Bo Diddley]

Ok, but maybe go RPO on 2nd or 3rd down. Robbins earned the chance to take it in for a TD.

[All-American]

Ok, but maybe go RPO on 2nd or 3rd down. Robbins earned the chance to take it in for a TD.

He did. And the play call that the coaches sent in was supposed to give him the ball.

[Bo Diddley]

He did. And the play call that the coaches sent in was supposed to give him the ball.

Well, an option to give him the ball.

[All-American]

Well, an option to give him the ball.

Which the play as called told the QB he was supposed to take.

Contrast this with the play from Zach Wilson's rookie year, where on 4th and 2 against Tom Brady's Bucs he ran a QB sneak instead of handing the ball off to a receiver on a jet sweep. Zach made the read based on where a defensive lineman lined up. The play call was for him to decide what to do based on that alignment, and in keeping it for the sneak (coming up short and giving the ball back to Brady for the winning TD drive) he ran the play exactly as it was called. The coaches later acknowledged that they gave him the wrong play-- or, at least, failed to give him the right instruction on how to run that play.

Here, by contrast, the indication is that the play was designed to be a run-- a run with an option to pass, not a pass with an option to run. Moreover, the option to pass was to be considered only if it was absolutely open. The play was supposed to be a handoff.

Again, this doesn't let the coaches off the hook. It's still a coaching mistake-- just not the same kind of mistake.