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  • #16
    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

    Don’t know if he ever fumbled, but he dropped a wheel-route TD on the first play of the Holy War which we then lost in OT, allowing Utah to become bowl eligible. Which gave rise to a year of Brett Ratliff/ redshirt year of Brian Johnson, and this the Sugar Bowl. So much worse than a fumble.
    I was in the North EZ stands with my dad that game. Remember that play distinctly. Ugh.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

      Don’t know if he ever fumbled, but he dropped a wheel-route TD on the first play of the Holy War which we then lost in OT, allowing Utah to become bowl eligible. Which gave rise to a year of Brett Ratliff/ redshirt year of Brian Johnson, and this the Sugar Bowl. So much worse than a fumble.
      Sadly, that's one of his most memorable plays for me. My seat for that game was on the west sideline.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

        Don’t know if he ever fumbled, but he dropped a wheel-route TD on the first play of the Holy War which we then lost in OT, allowing Utah to become bowl eligible. Which gave rise to a year of Brett Ratliff/ redshirt year of Brian Johnson, and this the Sugar Bowl. So much worse than a fumble.
        I had long since truly forgiven because that play didn't even enter into my mind when I was thinking about ranking our RBs. But you have opened the wound anew.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
          Jamaal had higher top-end speed.
          Ummmmm…….
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
            Ummmmm…….
            Was there someone relevant on that list who was faster than Jamaal? (I didn't go and look up everyone's stats - my statement of why I voted for Jamaal over Harvey is just my perception of Jamaal's speed.

            Random Curtis Brown memory: He destroyed UNLV back in the Crowton years but BYU still lost. He had something like 100+ yards on fewer than 10 carries. That fact that BYU didn't feed him the ball and just run up and down the field is, well, it's just mind-bogglingly bad football. So Crowtonesque...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post

              Was there someone relevant on that list who was faster than Jamaal? (I didn't go and look up everyone's stats - my statement of why I voted for Jamaal over Harvey is just my perception of Jamaal's speed.

              Random Curtis Brown memory: He destroyed UNLV back in the Crowton years but BYU still lost. He had something like 100+ yards on fewer than 10 carries. That fact that BYU didn't feed him the ball and just run up and down the field is, well, it's just mind-bogglingly bad football. So Crowtonesque...
              October 8, 2004

              8 carries for 102 yards
              3 catches for 17 yards

              68 passes attempted (a new record)
              1 offensive touchdown (pass to Todd Watkins), 1 defensive touchdown (Cameron Jensen interception return), 2 FG (Matt Payne)

              UNLV 24, BYU 20

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              • #22
                I have no data to back this up, but my impression of Harvey was that he had great top end speed, but maybe it was "great top end speed for a guy his size."
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                • #23
                  I was conflicted between Harvey, Jamaal, and Tyler. Harvey was such a freaking wrecking ball. I remember when he first started getting touches between Tonga and Fui and absolutely wrecking dudes bc he had speed as well. His TD vs Utah after 4th and 20 was so gratifying, too. I ended up going w J. Williams, though. I think he just had another gear and a bit bigger body of work. Also, the progress he made between seasons was unbelievable.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

                    Don’t know if he ever fumbled, but he dropped a wheel-route TD on the first play of the Holy War which we then lost in OT, allowing Utah to become bowl eligible. Which gave rise to a year of Brett Ratliff/ redshirt year of Brian Johnson, and this the Sugar Bowl. So much worse than a fumble.
                    I was in the end zone near that play. It was so demoralizing-- that was a shoo-in TD.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                      Your poll rightly implies that they are all vying for second place. Luke is the all time great.

                      Harvey and Baby J are almost equal in my mind. I gave Williams the edge because he played tougher competition.
                      Yes! Only Harvey gets special consideration for the number of Steve Tates put on their asses.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by originalsocal View Post

                        Yes! Only Harvey gets special consideration for the number of Steve Tates put on their asses.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Donuthole View Post

                          Don’t know if he ever fumbled, but he dropped a wheel-route TD on the first play of the Holy War which we then lost in OT, allowing Utah to become bowl eligible. Which gave rise to a year of Brett Ratliff/ redshirt year of Brian Johnson, and this the Sugar Bowl. So much worse than a fumble.
                          if my memory is right, we came back to that play to open the second half. It wasn’t a TD but a big gain. And yes, that play was a back breaker.

                          For the discussion, I’d rank the backs:

                          1) Jamaal
                          2) Allgier
                          3) Unga

                          Those top three are fairly close and I could argue Unga or Allgier for 2/3. But Jamaal was the best back of the group. He also played with the worst QBs of the group and still produced where Allgier and Unga benefitted from better QB play IMO. At least more consistently.

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