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  • LA Ute
    Receiver of Memory
    • Nov 2008
    • 19512

    #1771
    Originally posted by beelzebabette View Post
    But they wouldn't have looked that way if they had just pursued, received and accepted a BCS-Conference invite? Or would independence and BCS-Conference pursuit be perceived the same way?
    Oh, I don't want to beat up on BYU here. But just pursuing and getting a BCS conference invite is a lot different from the fairly complex arrangement BYU tried to set up. I don't blame them for doing it, but I can see how the other members of the MWC, who would have been left weakened and with a much reduced ability to do much about it, might feel justified in being unhappy with them.
    “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
    ― W.H. Auden


    "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
    -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


    "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
    --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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    • Surfah
      Where's Wallace?
      • Nov 2008
      • 33726

      #1772
      WAC just announced they're launching WSN (WAC Sports Network).
      "Nobody listens to Turtle."
      -Turtle
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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #1773
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        Now, I'm not saying BYU is USC, but the principal applies just the same, only on a smaller scale. BYU is carrying the MWC. This is even more obvious with Utah's departure. Boise State will bring some additional validity to the conference, but they are not about to displace BYU as the top dog as far as money and prestige is concerned.
        Yes, BYU is the USC/Texas of the MWC and it is about time they start acting like it. Who the hell cares what other teams think.

        As for Boise State they have won some great games. They may even be able to beat Va Tech. I can't say they should be playing in a national championship this year or they are equal to an Utah.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Uncle Ted
          The Big 12 money shot.
          • Apr 2010
          • 28853

          #1774
          Originally posted by Surfah View Post
          WAC just announced they're launching WSN (WAC Sports Network).
          Maybe they are buying the assets of the mtn with the money they are getting from the UNR and Fresno.
          "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
          "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
          "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
          GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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          • Jarid in Cedar
            CS Institutional Memory
            • Jun 2009
            • 13234

            #1775
            Originally posted by Ted Nugent View Post
            Maybe they are buying the assets of the mtn with the money they are getting from the UNR and Fresno.
            The Mtn has assets? Huh, learn something new every day
            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

            "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

            -Rick Majerus

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            • Surfah
              Where's Wallace?
              • Nov 2008
              • 33726

              #1776
              Originally posted by Ted Nugent View Post
              Maybe they are buying the assets of the mtn with the money they are getting from the UNR and Fresno.
              Learfield is their partner. Aren't they Texas based? And isn't that the same group the Big 12 North met with last week?
              "Nobody listens to Turtle."
              -Turtle
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              • Surfah
                Where's Wallace?
                • Nov 2008
                • 33726

                #1777
                Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                The Mtn has assets? Huh, learn something new every day
                BYU.
                "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                -Turtle
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                • Jarid in Cedar
                  CS Institutional Memory
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 13234

                  #1778
                  Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                  BYU.
                  Nice
                  "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                  "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                  "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                  -Rick Majerus

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                  • Surfah
                    Where's Wallace?
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 33726

                    #1779
                    Eborn tweeting like crazy right now:


                    Just spoke to a source close to negotiations of near BYU/WAC deal. Major setback happened, but talks continue & ESPN still actively involved

                    BYU, source said, simply does not like mtn. & seeking to increase revenue & national exposure. Talks ongoing with MWC/WAC, C-USA teams
                    Nothing imminent, but Sept 1 deadline a factor in accelerated exploration of options & negotiations for all parties involved, including USU
                    "Nobody listens to Turtle."
                    -Turtle
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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #1780
                      Originally posted by falafel View Post
                      You guys are just too emotionally invested to see things clearly. In both situations.
                      You're probably right. I need to become as clear-eyed and objective as all you Cougar fans here.
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #1781
                        Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                        Learfield is their partner. Aren't they Texas based? And isn't that the same group the Big 12 North met with last week?
                        Why yes it is...





                        Interesting.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • beelzebabette
                          Golf & Cubs Disrespecter
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2907

                          #1782
                          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                          Oh, I don't want to beat up on BYU here. But just pursuing and getting a BCS conference invite is a lot different from the fairly complex arrangement BYU tried to set up. I don't blame them for doing it, but I can see how the other members of the MWC, who would have been left weakened and with a much reduced ability to do much about it, might feel justified in being unhappy with them.
                          Wouldn't this be the case no matter how BYU left? The MWC is up a foul creek because Utah and BYU want to leave, not because BYU wants to leave.

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #1783
                            Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                            The Mtn has assets? Huh, learn something new every day
                            Maybe assets isn't the right word.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Moliere
                              One man.....one pie
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 27926

                              #1784
                              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
                              Eborn tweeting like crazy right now:
                              Hmmm.....BYU goes independent and all other sports join C-USA. Has anyone considered this? The travel would be expensive, but it would open up a lot fo avenues for recruiting and exposure (remember the 12 want more exposure). Wonder if there is an opportunity to swing the same WAC deal with C-USA?
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #1785
                                Originally posted by Eddie Jones View Post
                                Hmmm.....BYU goes independent and all other sports join C-USA. Has anyone considered this? The travel would be expensive, but it would open up a lot fo avenues for recruiting and exposure (remember the 12 want more exposure). Wonder if there is an opportunity to swing the same WAC deal with C-USA?
                                I have to wonder if Hair Thompson's meeting agenda with the C-USA's commissioner (Banowsky sp?) last week had a line item about blocking this possibility. Maybe a little anti-poaching/anti-BYU friendship deal which most likely means Houston is not getting a MWC invite.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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