Dr. Hill on the radio

[beelzebabette]

Okay, well then we're back to the main issue. Why leave now, unless of course the PAC is demanding the Utes come immediately? I can't see any real benefit to the PAC to add one team in 2011, and one team in 2012. Is the MWC kicking them out? That seems unlikely.

I'm actually with the Utes. I wouldn't want to be the lame duck in the conference. Look forward too long and you can lose sight on what you should be doing in the present.

[falafel]

I'm actually with the Utes. I wouldn't want to be the lame duck in the conference. Look forward too long and you can lose sight on what you should be doing in the present.

Why not? What's the possible down side of sticking around one more year? The upside, clearly, is that you've still got money coming in the door from the conference. Is there a fear that the PAC changes their minds in 2011 before the Utes can start play? That can't be it.

[beelzebabette]

Why not? What's the possible down side of sticking around one more year? The upside, clearly, is that you've still got money coming in the door from the conference. Is there a fear that the PAC changes their minds in 2011 before the Utes can start play? That can't be it.

So college football is all about the money?

[falafel]

So college football is all about the money?

Of course.

[Jarid in Cedar]

Why not? What's the possible down side of sticking around one more year? The upside, clearly, is that you've still got money coming in the door from the conference. Is there a fear that the PAC changes their minds in 2011 before the Utes can start play? That can't be it.

Not to snub my nose at 1.2 mil, but it is not a massive amount of money to walk away from. You can start telling recruits that you are going to play in the Pac-11-2 as a freshman. Utah will still get the gate cuts from the road conference games, they will likely be able to charge more for home games, which will help decrease the financial gap.

Being a lame duck for 1 year is palatable, 2 years.....distracting, which is why I think that CU eventually negotiates out to join in 2011 as well.

[Spicy McHaggis]

It's not a stretch to think they could make up the $1.2mil they would get in the MWC from sponsorship.
Also, I think CU is working a deal to join the PAC in 2011.

[BoylenOver]

This is odd to me. Why would there be urgency to jump from the MWC in 2011, particularly when CU won't be joining at the same time (btw, is this still correct?)? Why would the PAC require Utah to "get here ASAP" and why would Utah be so eager to leave, especially since it means they aren't getting a full pay-day from the league yet. Is a 1/3 share of PAC money more than a full share of MWC money?

Colorado will be joining the PAC-12 in 2011.

[falafel]

Colorado will be joining the PAC-12 in 2011.

Is that official?

[BoylenOver]

Is that official?

Not official, but based on this story from BuffZone.com that quotes Dan Beebe, highly likely.

[falafel]

Not official, but based on this story from BuffZone.com that quotes Dan Beebe, highly likely.

Of course it makes sense to Dan Beebe, he's on the receiving end of CU's buyout. And if it actually happens, my argument loses steam. But since at the time of CU's announcement it wasn't certain, it seems an odd move for the U. It also makes me sad to see them rushing for the MWC ext.

[creekster]

It also makes me sad to see them rushing for the MWC ext.

I agree. If they would only go a little slower the door might hit them as the leave.

[BoylenOver]

Also, I think Dr. Hill on the Radio's 3rd album, "Return to Uintah Mountain", was the best.

[Uncle Ted]

Is that official?

It is only going to cost them their share of the $35M to $40M early exit payment...

Liquidated damages. The exit payment from Nebraska and Colorado to the league has been estimated at $35 million to $40 million.

and it could be a done deal. Maybe the Pac-10 will spot them.


Edit: BTW, Dan Beebe says Colorado should be in Pac-10 by 2011.

[U-Ute]

Okay, well then we're back to the main issue. Why leave now, unless of course the PAC is demanding the Utes come immediately?

Which isn't the case. Dr. Hill said the same thing on Aug 5 on the radio in that the PAC-10 wanted them to start in 2012 with Colorado, and that Hill responded that "for various reason" the Utes "needed" to start in 2011. Utah is even taking a financial hit to do so in not getting any league money, from either league, for a year.

I can't see any real benefit to the PAC to add one team in 2011, and one team in 2012. Is the MWC kicking them out? That seems unlikely.

Nope. This is all being driven by Hill wanting to start in 2011. I just can't figure out why it is so urgent.

[LA Ute]

Okay, well then we're back to the main issue. Why leave now, unless of course the PAC is demanding the Utes come immediately? I can't see any real benefit to the PAC to add one team in 2011, and one team in 2012. Is the MWC kicking them out? That seems unlikely.

Because as we all know, long engagements are not a good idea.