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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #31
    Originally posted by byu71 View Post
    Because you have to spend money to make money. I am surprised BYU went into the Red in '08. They very may well have. On the other hand I suspect they can keep records however they want and not according to generally accepted acctg. principles. I will bet the athletci department doesn't charge for the MC for devotionals and other activities held there.
    I think they would do some soft money transaction to account for it. When I worked for a department at BYU we had to pay the telecommunications department for telephone and network connections with essentially soft money. This funded their budget. I suspect it works the same in some way or another with the Marriott Center.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • jay santos
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 13652

      #32
      Originally posted by Ted Nugent View Post
      I think they would do some soft money transaction to account for it. When I worked for a department at BYU we had to pay the telecommunications department for telephone and network connections with essentially soft money. This funded their budget. I suspect it works the same in some way or another with the Marriott Center.
      If there's a strategic reason to do it, sure. Is there a strategic reason to report that BYU athletics is profitable? The way they do their accounting, I think most likely either a) they don't care and do it the easiest way or b) they want to show BYU athletics are about break even. They don't even count parking or food revenue from FB and BB games in the athletic budget.

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #33
        Originally posted by jay santos View Post
        If there's a strategic reason to do it, sure. Is there a strategic reason to report that BYU athletics is profitable? The way they do their accounting, I think most likely either a) they don't care and do it the easiest way or b) they want to show BYU athletics are about break even. They don't even count parking or food revenue from FB and BB games in the athletic budget.
        Sure... that might explain why BYU athletics is not profitable but the budget shows that BYU cares about $35.6M worth about athletics which is comparable to other college athletic budgets like our friends to the North. That is really the point here. So maybe Utah doesn't care much about athletics as well or BYU does actually care about athletics. It seems more of the latter. Also, if BYU didn't care as much about athletics then I would suspect they would support as about as many varsity sport programs as CU (or less) which is around 10. I believe BYU has about twice that currently.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • DU Ute
          RIP CUF
          • Dec 2008
          • 7393

          #34
          Originally posted by wally View Post
          BYU Football = Zions Camp, the next generation.
          This is a more appropriate response to the comment that young men are being groomed than I would have come up with.
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          • Non Sequitur
            Where did I put my bodkin
            • Nov 2008
            • 5773

            #35
            I don't know whether this "BYU Insider" is full of crap or not, but I guarantee you that if BYU doesn't land in a BCS conference in the next couple of years, the spin from a host of BYU fans will be that we never wanted in the BCS because BYU has a unique mission. Mark it down.
            "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69760

              #36
              Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
              I don't know whether this "BYU Insider" is full of crap or not, but I guarantee you that if BYU doesn't land in a BCS conference in the next couple of years, the spin from a host of BYU fans will be that we never wanted in the BCS because BYU has a unique mission. Mark it down.
              Uh... Way to go out on a limb there.
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              • Color Me Badd Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 12519

                #37
                What's depressing about this post is that it very well could have a lot of truth. They axed Ricks's athletic program.

                I think there's probably a fairly strong tie to both donations and the quality of admission applications that come as a result of BYU athletics. Not an insignificant portion of a college experience (IMO) comes from college sports.

                Nearly every LDS estate planning attorney who's also a BYU alum that I know are huge BYU sports fans, much more than the average alum (I can't explain why, but it's something I've noticed). I also know that these guys funnel a lot of money into BYU. There's no doubt in my mind that their enthusiasm would be enormously diminished if BYU gets rid of its football and basketball programs.

                (BTW, some of you know that I posted this in another forum).
                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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