The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • Jacob
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 6801

    #13651
    Originally posted by Scratch View Post
    It looks like the B12 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Here's the B12's grant of rights through 2025.

    All 10 schools signed it, and, while so far I just skimmed it, it looks like all 10 schools have granted their rights to all of the games covered by the ESPN/ABC and Fox TV contracts to the B12. It also looks like there's no real way out of the grant of rights, so the good news for Utah fans is it looks like we won't be playing in a division with Texas and Oklahoma schools for a while, if ever.

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/116756116...-of-Rights-pdf
    Also, check out Robert Bowlsby's signature on that contract. Don't think I've seen one like that before.

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    • falafel
      loves to talk on things
      • Mar 2009
      • 38030

      #13652
      Originally posted by Jacob View Post
      What is the logic behind your last statement? They don't have to get out of the grant of rights to add new teams to the conference. The grant make it more likely, not less, that we'd have a shot at joining the B12, IMO. Still not a great shot, but a better one.
      Scratch is a Utah fan. He's saying there's little chance of Texas and OU bolting for the Pac 12.
      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

      Dig your own grave, and save!

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      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • Scratch
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 173

        #13653
        Originally posted by falafel View Post
        Scratch is a Utah fan. He's saying there's little chance of Texas and OU bolting for the Pac 12.
        Right, I would say this is good news (although probably not terribly big news) for both BYU and Utah. Both teams presumably want the B12 to stick together.

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        • Mormon Red Death
          BYU Delenda Est
          • Nov 2008
          • 8077

          #13654
          per espn the #1 free agent school for expansion is byu. Maybe Viking and his locked in solid references were right about the pac12.

          1. Brigham Young Cougars
          Current affiliation: Independent
          10-year record: 82-43, eight bowls, two conference titles (Mountain West)
          TV market: Salt Lake City (33rd)

          The Cougars wisely broke off their chats with the Big East not too long before the conference started its 2012 implosion. Its two-year run as a Notre Dame-ish independent has been a success, but without the TV and BCS safety nets that the Irish enjoy, BYU officials know that they must continue shopping for a conference football home.

          The Big 12 has quietly poked around Provo. People within BYU tell me that the Pac-12 has also made stealthy inquiries, though the folks at archrival Utah don't want to hear of it. There is also talk of a new "remnants conference" that would essentially reunite the Mountain West and add in Big East refugees. But is a cobbled-together league really a better option than independence, or waiting on one of these inquiring conferences to make a move?

          "We talk a lot about media markets driving all of this," said a West Coast AD. "Salt Lake is a solid market. But really, BYU transcends that. They are one of the few schools with a national following. Really, it's global. BYU TV is already in 50 million households on its own. It's a giant brand with a passionate fan base. Otherwise, they couldn't have gone independent in the first place. There's a lot to like there. We may try to downplay it, but we all know that."
          Last edited by Mormon Red Death; 12-19-2012, 07:14 AM.
          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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          • Green Monstah
            Royal Rooter
            • Aug 2010
            • 14011

            #13655
            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
            per espn the #1 free agent school for expansion is byu. Maybe Viking and is locked in solid references were right about the pac12.
            I would pay 12% tithing for a year if we found our way to the P12.
            Jesus wants me for a sunbeam.

            "Cog dis is a bitch." -James Patterson

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            • YOhio
              Hipster Mode
              • Nov 2008
              • 26165

              #13656
              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
              per espn the #1 free agent school for expansion is byu. Maybe Viking and is locked in solid references were right about the pac12.
              Yeah. We're #1. Old news.

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              • Mormon Red Death
                BYU Delenda Est
                • Nov 2008
                • 8077

                #13657
                Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                Yeah. We're #1. Old news.
                You are in! Take it to the bank!
                "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

                "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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                • venkman
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 2199

                  #13658
                  Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                  per espn the #1 free agent school for expansion is byu. Maybe Viking and his locked in solid references were right about the pac12.
                  So the utes are adamantly opposed to BYU in the Pac 12. Wow, that's shocking because according to BYU, our athletic depts were super good friends and the utes were bummed that the cougs weren't fully invited.

                  I fully understand why they are opposed to BYU in the Pac 12...it would destroy any semblance of recruiting parity/slight ute advantage.
                  Last edited by venkman; 12-19-2012, 05:45 PM.
                  "Remember to double tap"

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                  • The_Douger
                    Athletic Supporter
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 5413

                    #13659
                    I think Utah would vote for BYU to enter the P12.
                    Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                    • falafel
                      loves to talk on things
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 38030

                      #13660
                      Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                      I think Utah would vote for BYU to enter the P12.
                      Why would they possibly do that?
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

                      "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                      "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                      • Lost Student
                        BAND!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4324

                        #13661
                        Originally posted by falafel View Post
                        Why would they possibly do that?
                        Gentleman's agreement.
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                        • Jacob
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6801

                          #13662
                          Originally posted by falafel View Post
                          Why would they possibly do that?
                          because they can only beat a few teams in that conference and would likely enjoy another team that they can beat most of the time. you know, so they can go to a bowl game.

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                          • pellegrino
                            miserere me
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 12100

                            #13663
                            Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
                            I would pay 12% tithing for a year if we found our way to the P12.
                            gross or net?
                            Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                            God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                            Alessandro Manzoni

                            Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                            pelagius

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                            • Omaha 680
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 11207

                              #13664
                              Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                              You are in! Take it to the bank!
                              This dog hunts!

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                              • YOhio
                                Hipster Mode
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 26165

                                #13665
                                The West Virginia expansion tweeters are back at it. This time mhver3 is saying that the four power conferences are going to break away from the NCAA in football. The Big 10 and SEC are going to expand to 20 teams while the Big12 and PAC12 land somewhere between 12 and 16 teams.

                                Best part:

                                Deals have been made. Secret meetings attended. Illuminati-type cabal formed. The whole nine yards.

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