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  • "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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    • Originally posted by CJF View Post
      Apologies to Tim, but that seriously deserves an oh brother.
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      • Originally posted by Moliere View Post
        Well they did invite Utah and Colorado so their criteria isn't all that stringent. SMU is pretty comparable, except that its in a much bigger tv market.
        As someone living in Texas you should know better. Here's roughly the pecking order for DFW (metroplex):
        UT, A&M, OU
        Tech, TCU, OK St.
        Baylor, SMU

        So SMU is in a large TV market but nobody really cares about the Mustangs. I've spent time on the campuses of Utah, Colorado, and SMU. Colorado is a good fit for the PAC-12 but their major sports are really struggling. Utah is less of a fit for the PAC-12 but they parnter well with CU (my condolences to Ute fans).

        SMU being in a large TV market (and by association being attractive to the PAC-12) is like the Big 12 saying that they want a part of the large Ohio market so they'll recruit Ohio U. (the Bobcats).
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        • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
          As someone living in Texas you should know better. Here's roughly the pecking order for DFW (metroplex):
          UT, A&M, OU
          Tech, TCU, OK St.
          Baylor, Arkansas, SMU

          So SMU is in a large TV market but nobody really cares about the Mustangs. I've spent time on the campuses of Utah, Colorado, and SMU. Colorado is a good fit for the PAC-12 but their major sports are really struggling. Utah is less of a fit for the PAC-12 but they parnter well with CU (my condolences to Ute fans).

          SMU being in a large TV market (and by association being attractive to the PAC-12) is like the Big 12 saying that they want a part of the large Ohio market so they'll recruit Ohio U. (the Bobcats).
          FIFY. You forgot the hogs even with their crappy season.
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          • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            FIFY. You forgot the hogs even with their crappy season.
            See, that's the troubles the Aggies cause by defecting to the SEC. Now the door is open for the SEC and I think there are as many LSU fans as Arkansas fans in DFW.

            Lastest update:
            UT, A&M, OU
            Tech, TCU, OK St.
            Baylor, Arkansas, LSU, SMU
            “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
            "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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            • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
              See, that's the troubles the Aggies cause by defecting to the SEC. Now the door is open for the SEC and I think there are as many LSU fans as Arkansas fans in DFW.

              Lastest update:
              UT, A&M, OU
              Tech, TCU, OK St.
              Baylor, Arkansas, LSU, SMU
              There are so many Arkansas fans in North DFW that they give in state tuition to their kids.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                There are so many Arkansas fans in North DFW that they give in state tuition to their kids.
                Didn't know that but I find it interesting. Always wondered way so many HS graduates here go to Arkansas after not getting admitted to UT or A&M (for those unaware: UT is very competitive and A&M is probably slightly more competitive than BYU). At least it saves them from Lubbock. I'd probably do the same if my kid didn't get admitted to UT, A&M, or BYU and I could get in-state tuition at Arkansas. I've always thought U. Utah should do the same with former Utah residents. They would get some terriffic students who don't get admitted to BYU for some reason and instead end up at UVU or BYU-I.
                “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
                "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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                • Florida State. Big 12 or Big lEast?


                  Edit: link all better.
                  Last edited by Uncle Ted; 11-28-2012, 04:34 AM.
                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
                    Didn't know that but I find it interesting. Always wondered way so many HS graduates here go to Arkansas after not getting admitted to UT or A&M (for those unaware: UT is very competitive and A&M is probably slightly more competitive than BYU). At least it saves them from Lubbock. I'd probably do the same if my kid didn't get admitted to UT, A&M, or BYU and I could get in-state tuition at Arkansas. I've always thought U. Utah should do the same with former Utah residents. They would get some terriffic students who don't get admitted to BYU for some reason and instead end up at UVU or BYU-I.
                    To get in-state the student has to have a 24 ACT or 1090 SAT and 3.25 GPA. Transfer students only need a 3.0 GPA and 24 hours of college credit.

                    Of course, they might have to raise the tuition at Arkansas. The rumor is they offered Les Miles $27.5MM for a 5-year contract. Apparently Miles said, when asked if the rumor was true: "How f'ing much?"
                    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                    • Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                      Bad link!
                      Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                      Dig your own grave, and save!

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                      • Originally posted by CJF View Post
                        Apologies to Tim, but that seriously deserves an oh brother.
                        Wait... why apologies to me? I just saw this thread. Are you suggesting that I'm the usual recipient of "oh brother" on CUF? There are probably a dozen people here who've received an "oh brother" more than I have...
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                        • Why won't these assholes just invite us.
                          Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                          • Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                            Why won't these assholes just invite us.
                            Probably because you keep calling then assholes.
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                            • Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                              Probably because you keep calling then assholes.
                              That's not why. Utah fans called the PAC that for years, and still got invited.
                              Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                              • Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                                Why won't these assholes just invite us.
                                lol I thought they did and you turned them down, because independence is so groovy.

                                You'll probably find thousands of posts here and on CB making that claim. Viking alone probalby has a hundred.
                                When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                                --Jonathan Swift

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