The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • All-American
    Right, as Usual
    • Nov 2008
    • 15643

    #13366
    Originally posted by Babs View Post
    Wait. So those teams left because the conference wasn't strong enough? A little ironic, considering that those four weren't exactly boosting the conference's SOS or reputation.

    I think you're confused. If Nebraska -- or any North Division team for that matter -- had managed to win a few conference titles, things would be different now, because the conference would have been home to something remotely akin to intraconference competition.
    Good point. How many Big XII titles between the four of them? Two? Three?
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    • Omaha 680
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 11173

      #13367
      Originally posted by All-American View Post
      Good point. How many Big XII titles between the four of them? Two? Three?
      THREE! *grumble, grumble*

      Edit: it's actually four. I thought you were only referring to the North teams who left, but A&M had a fluke title game win in '98.

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      • Paperback Writer
        Signature won a Pulitzer
        • Nov 2010
        • 5211

        #13368
        Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
        THREE! *grumble, grumble*

        Edit: it's actually four. I thought you were only referring to the North teams who left, but A&M had a fluke title game win in '98.
        Nebraska: 1997, 1999
        Colorado: 2001
        Texas A&M: 1998

        Edit: Omaha beat me to it - four wins. There was also KSU's upset over OU in 2003.
        “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
        "All things are measured against Nebraska." falafel

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        • Paperback Writer
          Signature won a Pulitzer
          • Nov 2010
          • 5211

          #13369
          Originally posted by Babs View Post
          Wait. So those teams left because the conference wasn't strong enough? A little ironic, considering that those four weren't exactly boosting the conference's SOS or reputation.

          I think you're confused. If Nebraska -- or any North Division team for that matter -- had managed to win a few conference titles, things would be different now, because the conference would have been home to something remotely akin to intraconference competition.
          They didn't leave for lack of winning conference titles; they left because they didn't want to play in what became the SWC II. Kansas, KSU, and Iowa St. would leave too but the invites didn't arrive in their mailbox.
          “Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory.”
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          • Babs
            Not a Lawyer
            • Nov 2008
            • 17128

            #13370
            Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
            They didn't leave for lack of winning conference titles; they left because they didn't want to play in what became the SWC II.
            It felt like the SWC because the N failed to pull its collective weight. I hardly see how that's the fault of the successful teams.

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            • Omaha 680
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 11173

              #13371
              Originally posted by Babs View Post
              It felt like the SWC because the N failed to pull its collective weight. I hardly see how that's the fault of the successful teams.
              FIFY.

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              • Pelado
                Bald not naked
                • Sep 2010
                • 21104

                #13372
                Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                FIFY.
                That's not fair. Oklahoma's been successful, too.
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                • TripletDaddy
                  sweet triple
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 58186

                  #13373
                  Bowlsby sez: we would expand for a very special school



                  Here we were Tuesday at Iowa State, and Bowlsby was telling us his conference is comfortable with having 10 members, and would expand only if it could add “a very special institution.”
                  http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports...a4bcf887a.html

                  The additions of Texas Christian and West Virginia replenished the league back to 10 teams while adding a competitive element for football, but expansion remains in the minds of fans and schools as the league moves forward.

                  "Expansion or conference alignment overall will always be on our radar," Bowlsby said. "I think it will be on every agenda that we have going forward just because you can't afford to not think about those kinds of things and consider the options."

                  As of now, Bowlsby said the conference is content with the number of schools it has but would be open to admitting other schools if they exceed expectations for admittance.

                  In terms of expansion, Bowlsby declined to name any schools that have contacted the conference of possible admission.
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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #13374
                    BYU: junior highschoolers

                    http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascit...t-talking.html

                    He said he has received calls from prospective new members, but said it is at a low level that he compared to “junior high dating.”
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                    • TripletDaddy
                      sweet triple
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 58186

                      #13375
                      Louisville beating Kentucky! Go Louisville!
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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #13376
                        Guys, I look in amazement at the Big 12 standings. TCU and West VA but no BYU. How awful this has happened to you all. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • SeattleUte
                          Faith crisis consultant
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 20837

                          #13377
                          Originally posted by creekster View Post
                          And either way you will crow that you knew it all along.
                          Yes, it's both.
                          When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                          --Jonathan Swift

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                          • Jeff Lebowski
                            Corporate lackey for Jesus
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 69540

                            #13378




                            Probably true, but what a dumb thing to say to your new conference mates. Supposedly, A&M officials are horrified (university did not do it).
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                            • The_Douger
                              Athletic Supporter
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 5413

                              #13379
                              Ah, the TAMU Aggies, doing less with more while trying to surpass big brother for 3 decades.
                              Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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                              • TripletDaddy
                                sweet triple
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 58186

                                #13380
                                Im glad aTM is gone. I don't want them in our conference.
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