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  • Goatnapper'96
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 10920

    #8206
    Originally posted by jay santos View Post
    OK, this logic makes sense to me. (in a homeristic view giving complete faith to notion that BYU and Big 12 are very close to working out a deal)

    1. Big 12 has plans to invite BYU to get to 10 with plans to get West Virginia and Louisville to get to 12.
    2. TCU has been in discussion but doesn't rank as high as BYU or WV/Lville
    3. MO gives notice of intention to leave, and the Big 12 powers feel like this new development requires a slight strategic shift which jumps TCU higher in the attractiveness rankings. ie solidify Texas presence and keep these SEC bastards out of our recruiting grounds.
    4. TCU is quickly invited and announced to upstage the MO announcement. MO abstains from vote.
    5. MO announces leave for SEC.
    6. BYU is announced as the 10th team.
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    • Goatnapper'96
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 10920

      #8207
      Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
      Not-so-fast juggie-wan:

      WVU to SEC,
      Louisville/Cincy to Big 12, Mizzu stays=12
      LOL, Cincy over BYU?

      Wouldn't be prudent....not.gonna.happen.
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      • Blueintheface
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 15382

        #8208
        Originally posted by jay santos View Post
        I don't get this. Big 12 goes to 16. OK. Why does SEC think they need to follow. And let's say they do. Why does Pac think they need to follow?

        You're back to this ridiculous assumption that a nice clean 4 X 16 is the fate of college football. It's a stupid assumption.
        Calling me a stupid ass ump will get you nowhere.
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        • Goatnapper'96
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 10920

          #8209
          Originally posted by Maximus View Post
          :stringpuller:
          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
          -General George S. Patton

          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
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          • Jacob
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 6801

            #8210
            Originally posted by jay santos View Post
            OK, this logic makes sense to me. (in a homeristic view giving complete faith to notion that BYU and Big 12 are very close to working out a deal)

            1. Big 12 has plans to invite BYU to get to 10 with plans to get West Virginia and Louisville to get to 12.
            2. TCU has been in discussion but doesn't rank as high as BYU or WV/Lville
            3. MO gives notice of intention to leave, and the Big 12 powers feel like this new development requires a slight strategic shift which jumps TCU higher in the attractiveness rankings. ie solidify Texas presence and keep these SEC bastards out of our recruiting grounds.
            4. TCU is quickly invited and announced to upstage the MO announcement. MO abstains from vote.
            5. MO announces leave for SEC.
            6. BYU is announced as the 10th team.
            That was logic? I'll admit to never having taken a logic course. But most of that seems like speculation to me. And doesn't make sense to me. I sure hope you are right though.

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            • Marvelous
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 178

              #8211
              Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
              Calling me a stupid ass ump will get you nowhere.
              I bet he was hoping it would get him to second base.

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              • Goatnapper'96
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 10920

                #8212
                Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                I don't get this. Big 12 goes to 16. OK. Why does SEC think they need to follow. And let's say they do. Why does Pac think they need to follow?

                You're back to this ridiculous assumption that a nice clean 4 X 16 is the fate of college football. It's a stupid assumption.
                I agree. I don't see the 16 as well. But I also don't understand the 14. I guess you would have 6 conference games and one consistent opponent on the other side for 7 games and then play the other 6 conference foes once every 3 years?

                Sixteen leads to 7 conference games, doing away with your one other side consistent foe, and playing the other 8 once every 4 years?

                12 is the size that makes the most sense to me. You play your 5 and then the other 6 every other year.
                Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                -General George S. Patton

                I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                -DOCTOR Wuap

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                • Omaha 680
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 11174

                  #8213
                  Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                  LOL, Cincy over BYU?

                  Wouldn't be prudent....not.gonna.happen.
                  Yeah, Cincy getting a nod over BYU would be the ultimate kick in the nads.

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                  • BoylenOver
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 9146

                    #8214
                    Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                    LOL, Cincy over BYU?

                    Wouldn't be prudent....not.gonna.happen.
                    What does prudence have to do with any of this? Besides, Cincy and Louisville are perfect travel partners, and bring a long shared history between them (C-USA).
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                    • jay santos
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 13652

                      #8215
                      Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                      That was logic? I'll admit to never having taken a logic course. But most of that seems like speculation to me. And doesn't make sense to me. I sure hope you are right though.
                      No, not really logical. And certainly not Ocam's Razor.

                      But I'm trying to put together a narrative that preserves the assumption that we've been in talks with the Big 12 over the last month as their #1 target and that a deal has been done for the last couple weeks which will be announced as soon as little odds and ends are tied down. This is an assumption that I as a BYU homer am holding onto like the last leaf.

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                      • falafel
                        loves to talk on things
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 37910

                        #8216
                        Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                        What does prudence have to do with any of this? Besides, Cincy and Louisville are perfect travel partners, and bring a long shared history between them (C-USA).
                        Are travel partners still a real thing? Do Colorado and Utah travel together?
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                        • Goatnapper'96
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 10920

                          #8217
                          Originally posted by BoylenOver View Post
                          What does prudence have to do with any of this? Besides, Cincy and Louisville are perfect travel partners, and bring a long shared history between them (C-USA).
                          Because Cincinatti brings nothing except good looking unis. In fact I think my alma mater ended a 20something losing streak against Cincinatti.

                          Neato for Louisiville and Cincy's long and shared history but that ain't gonna get the Bearcats near Bevo's teet!
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • Blueintheface
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 15382

                            #8218
                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            I agree. I don't see the 16 as well. But I also don't understand the 14. I guess you would have 6 conference games and one consistent opponent on the other side for 7 games and then play the other 6 conference foes once every 3 years?

                            Sixteen leads to 7 conference games, doing away with your one other side consistent foe, and playing the other 8 once every 4 years?

                            12 is the size that makes the most sense to me. You play your 5 and then the other 6 every other year.
                            12 may make the most sense but why has the best football conference in the country already taken steps towards at least 14? It may not make sense but someone believes it makes more money.
                            "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                            "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                            • MartyFunkhouser
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                              • Nov 2008
                              • 18720

                              #8219
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                              • Blueintheface
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 15382

                                #8220
                                Originally posted by falafel View Post
                                Are travel partners still a real thing? Do Colorado and Utah travel together?
                                Like Dual Survivor cast members.
                                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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