Utah will beat BYU

[YardTime]

Why do you discount Reed and George so much. To be honest George isnt that huge dropoff from Pitta

I agree with you about George.

[YardTime]

Regressing is the right word. He throws the ball to Pita and Collie over 50% of the time. Against inferior competition that's ok but Utah's offense will not sputter like AFA's and that's a significant difference. Look what happened at TCU when he forced the ball ... the same will happen at RES and the result will be BYU losing by a touchdown or more.

Wow. Simply wow. There is no using logic with toolblue.

[Coach McGuirk]

Regressing is the right word. He throws the ball to Pita and Collie over 50% of the time.

Graham Harrell throws to his top two receivers 40% of the time.
Graham Harrell throws to his next two receivers 27% of the time.
Graham Harrell throws to his next two receivers 18% of the time.

Max hall throws to his top two receivers 57% of the time.
Max Hall throws to his next two receivers 26% of the time.
Max Hall throws to his next two receivers 10% of the time.

So GH throws top 6 85%
and MH throws top 6 93%

note, of max halls top 6 receivers, the top 3 have played in all 11 games. #4 missed 2 games and #5 and #6 have missed 1 game.

of Graham Harrell's top 6 receivers, none has missed a game.


In addition, who, in this list of venerable all stars would you like to see have more catches instead of Pitta and Collie?

UNGA, Harvey
REED, Michael
GEORGE, Andrew
VAKAPUNA, Fui
WHITE, Reed
ASHWORTH, Luke
CHAMBERS, O'Neil
KOZLOWSKI, Tyler
KARIYA, Bryan
DILUIGI, JJ
HAFOKA, Spencer
LATU, Wayne
PRITCHARD, Iona

after all that and knowing that Michael Reed missed 2 games, tell me again why Hall is regressing?

[tooblue]

Graham Harrell throws to his top two receivers 40% of the time.
Graham Harrell throws to his next two receivers 27% of the time.
Graham Harrell throws to his next two receivers 18% of the time.

Max hall throws to his top two receivers 57% of the time.
Max Hall throws to his next two receivers 26% of the time.
Max Hall throws to his next two receivers 10% of the time.

So GH throw top 6 85%
and MH throws top 93%

note, of max halls top 6 receivers, the top 3 have played in all 11 games. #4 missed 2 games and #5 and #6 have missed 1 game.

of Graham Harrell's top 6 receivers, none has missed a game.


In addition, who, in this list of venerable all stars would you like to see have more catches instead of Pitta and Collie?

UNGA, Harvey
REED, Michael
GEORGE, Andrew
VAKAPUNA, Fui
WHITE, Reed
ASHWORTH, Luke
CHAMBERS, O'Neil
KOZLOWSKI, Tyler
KARIYA, Bryan
DILUIGI, JJ
HAFOKA, Spencer
LATU, Wayne
PRITCHARD, Iona

after all that and knowing that Michael Reed missed 2 games, tell me again why Hall is regressing?

You're comparing apples to oranges. But consider that Harrell has 0 losses against significantly better competition week in and week out. The ONE time Hall faced comparable competition on his schedule BYU lost.

Hall has forced the ball into double coverage all season and got away with it except at TCU. He will not get away with it at Utah.

Actually, I would rather see them hand off the ball more and live with 4 yards and a cloud of dust.

[Coach McGuirk]

You're comparing apples to oranges. But consider that Harrell has 0 losses against significantly better competition week in and week out. The ONE time Hall faced comperable competition on his schedule BYU lost.

Hall has forced the ball into double coverage all season and got away with it except at TCU. He will not get away with it at Utah.

Actually, I would rather see them hand off the ball more and live with 4 yards and a cloud of dust.

Ok, so against TCU, who on the list was open and should have gotten the ball? Or could it be that TT has a deeper rotation of receivers that can get open against the better competition.

[tooblue]

Ok, so against TCU, who on the list was open and should have gotten the ball? Or could it be that TT has a deeper rotation of receivers that can get open against the better competition.

Apples to oranges and not worth the effort.

Ask any Ute here what their D's weakness is? Ask them what their D's strength is? Ask those who went to the Michigan game who sat in a stupor and watched Michigan stupidly refuse to ram the ball down their throats ... Hall will force the ball into coverage and Anae will say I'm taking what the D gives me.

Pita will not be 100%. The D will key on Collie. Hall will force the ball and BYU will lose by a touchdown or more.

[Coach McGuirk]

Apples to oranges and not worth the effort.

Ask any Ute here what their D's weakness is? Ask them what their D's strength is? Ask those who went to the Michigan game who sat in a stupor and watched Michigan stupidly refuse to ram the ball down their throats ... Hall will force the ball into coverage and Anae will say I'm taking what the D gives me.

Pita will not be 100%. The D will key on Collie. Hall will force the ball and BYU will lose by a touchdown or more.

I am all for running the ball more and I think we need to do that. Just don't blame this on Hall, the numbers don't support it.

[smokymountainrain]

Maybe he means Hall has regressed from where he was earlier this season. Though I'm not sure I'd agree with that. I think the level of competition has increased.

Even if that's what toolblue is referring to, Hall's passer rating in his last four games is 193. He doesn't have a leg to stand on with that comment.

[tooblue]

I am all for running the ball more and I think we need to do that. Just don't blame this on Hall, the numbers don't support it.

I'm not blaming anything on Hall. I place ALL of the blame squarely on the shoulders of Anae -he is responsible for what has gone on. And I like Anae's offense a great deal.

[YardTime]

I'm not blaming anything on Hall. I place ALL of the blame squarely on the shoulders of Anae -he is responsible for what has gone on. And I like Anae's offense a great deal.

So toolblue (can I call you tool for short?), is Anae to blame for Hall's "regressing"?

TIA

[ERCougar]

Apples to oranges and not worth the effort.

Ask any Ute here what their D's weakness is? Ask them what their D's strength is? Ask those who went to the Michigan game who sat in a stupor and watched Michigan stupidly refuse to ram the ball down their throats ... Hall will force the ball into coverage and Anae will say I'm taking what the D gives me.

Pita will not be 100%. The D will key on Collie. Hall will force the ball and BYU will lose by a touchdown or more.

Utah has the 2nd best rushing defense and 5th best passing defense in the MWC. You sure we should just ram it down their throat?

[ERCougar]

First of all Pitta will play, they will shoot him up and he will be fine.

George is very good as well in fact I would say that he is the 2nd best tightend in the conference.

Hall has completed passes to 8 different receivers against CSU, 7 against SDSU, and 7 against AFA.

He has completed passes to 15 different receivers this year, the leader in the NCAA is 18.

He is doing fine spreading the ball around. He has the number 1 receiver in the country in terms of yards and yards per game on his team, as well as the number 1 tightend in the country. 2 1000 yard receivers with 2 games left.

He is completing 72% of his passes, he has 34 tds and only 8 ints this season. I am sorry but regressing is not the correct word. If you would have said he is not perfect I would agree with you, but he is pretty damn close.

Also Airforce had a very good D coming in to that game, giving up the same amount of points per game as Utah. They were also top 20 in passing defense, and 30th in total defense before we torched them.

Don't confuse us all with facts. They're clearly wrong.

[tooblue]

Don't confuse us all with facts. They're clearly wrong.

BYU should've throttled AFA, especially considering the fact that the defense played a little better than adequate much of the game and AFA was totally inept offensively.

I stand by my prediction and assessment of the season. Hall has great numbers because BYU passes on every down. The offensive game plan that helped this team win is the game plan that lost this team the TCU game. If it is the same game plan going into RES then BYU will lose by a touchdown or more.

[cougjunkie]

BYU should've throttled AFA, especially considering the fact that the defense played a little better than adequate much of the game and AFA was totally inept offensively.

I stand by prediction and assessment of the season. Hall has great numbers because BYU passes on every down. The offensive game plan that helped this team win is the game plan that lost this team the TCU game. If it is the same game plan going into RES then BYU will lose by a touchdown or more.

I am sorry I could buy your argument earlier but this has become a joke. Great numbers because they pass on every down? Ummm wouldnt that skew the numbers a bit. Ok maybe lots of yardage and tds because of how much they pass. But a 72% completion rate? 6th in the nation in pass efficiency, and less than 2% of his passes are ints. Which is top 10 in the nation.

390 pass attempts and 8 ints. Compared to the other so called great QBs in college football:

Colt Mccoy: 347 pass attempts, 7 ints
Sam Bradford: 330 attempts, 6 ints
Chase Daniel: 400 attempts, 11 ints
David Johnson: 287 attempts, 11 ints
Mark Sanchez: 268 attempts, 7 ints

He more than measures up. To say that he has good numbers because of his pass attempts is ridiculous.

[tooblue]

I am sorry I could buy your argument earlier but this has become a joke. Great numbers because they pass on every down? Ummm wouldnt that skew the numbers a bit. Ok maybe lots of yardage and tds because of how much they pass. But a 72% completion rate? 6th in the nation in pass efficiency, and less than 2% of his passes are ints. Which is top 10 in the nation.

390 pass attempts and 8 ints. Compared to the other so called great QBs in college football:

Colt Mccoy: 347 pass attempts, 7 ints
Sam Bradford: 330 attempts, 6 ints
Chase Daniel: 400 attempts, 11 ints
David Johnson: 287 attempts, 11 ints
Mark Sanchez: 268 attempts, 7 ints

He more than measures up. To say that he has good numbers because of his pass attempts is ridiculous.

His pass numbers against Mountain West competition!