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  • MartyFunkhouser
    Disciple of RNGesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 18717

    #1

    What will be the impact of Collie leaving

    I ask this over here because I don't want to be the cougarboard response that "it will help BYU because now Hall will have to spread the ball around."

    I think BYU will still have a good offense, but this is a huge loss. Collie was BYU's best offensive player and constantly demanded a double team. I think BYU's offense takes a definite step back next year.
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  • DrumNFeather
    Invisible Swordsman
    • Nov 2008
    • 8854

    #2
    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
    I ask this over here because I don't want to be the cougarboard response that "it will help BYU because now Hall will have to spread the ball around."

    I think BYU will still have a good offense, but this is a huge loss. Collie was BYU's best offensive player and constantly demanded a double team. I think BYU's offense takes a definite step back next year.
    Between Collie and Reed leaving, that's a lot of offense. But, like the Utes, there is some talent waiting in the wings. As you point out though, defenses will not double anyone on that O except maybe Pitta.
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    • Hot Lunch
      Out of Office
      • Nov 2008
      • 7842

      #3
      Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
      I ask this over here because I don't want to be the cougarboard response that "it will help BYU because now Hall will have to spread the ball around."

      I think BYU will still have a good offense, but this is a huge loss. Collie was BYU's best offensive player and constantly demanded a double team. I think BYU's offense takes a definite step back next year.
      Collie is a huge loss. BYU now only has one wide receiver that has really proven himself in McKay Jacobson and he did that 2 years ago and is just coming off a mission. Yes Austin made an immediate impact coming home last year straight off of his mission. Mckay is good but IMO he is not as good as Collie. If anyone says that BYU O will not skip a beat on O they really don't understand how good Austin really was at the college level.
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      • TripletDaddy
        sweet triple
        • Nov 2008
        • 58186

        #4
        CB is saying that it actually is good to lose the one of the greatest, if not the greatest all time receiver in conference history?

        Well, that is some impressive optimism.

        CB is going to be manic next year when BYU loses Hall, Unga, and Pitta all at once. It will be fantastic.
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        • Surfah
          Where's Wallace?
          • Nov 2008
          • 33726

          #5
          Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
          I ask this over here because I don't want to be the cougarboard response that "it will help BYU because now Hall will have to spread the ball around."

          I think BYU will still have a good offense, but this is a huge loss. Collie was BYU's best offensive player and constantly demanded a double team. I think BYU's offense takes a definite step back next year.
          He's a much greater loss than most are willing to concede. The guy is going to give you 100 yards receiving a game. He is going to make defenses game plan specifically for him.

          Bottom line: Collie is a playmaker. BYU doesn't have any playmakers now. They rarely have a playmaker of his caliber. The last one that is comparable in my estimation is Staley. When he touches the ball your ass starts to come out of your seat because at any moment he was going to explode. BYU no longer has that. Not on kick returns or split wideout. He is a huge loss in that regard.

          I also think that his loss will hurt Hall the most. They were the 10pm workout buddies. Hall could throw it to Collie and Collie would make things happen. He doesn't have that go to anymore. I am really worried about Hall's production next year without his brother. Anae really needs to focus the team around Unga as Sizzle was saying last night.
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          • smokymountainrain
            Impressive Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22593

            #6
            Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
            CB is saying that it actually is good to lose the one of the greatest, if not the greatest all time receiver in conference history?

            Well, that is some impressive optimism.
            To be fair, I am one who thinks BYU's offense might be better next year than it was this year. Has nothing to do with Collie leaving, I just think they might be better due to increased experience from their other skill guys. Many on CB are disagreeing with me on that. My guess is most on CB are aware and are saying that losing Collie is a huge blow to the team.
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            • landpoke
              Never once baby snatched
              • Nov 2008
              • 4183

              #7
              Originally posted by Surfah View Post
              They were the 10pm workout buddies.
              Is this some sort of scripturally based euphemism?
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              • MartyFunkhouser
                Disciple of RNGesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 18717

                #8
                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                To be fair, I am one who thinks BYU's offense might be better next year than it was this year. Has nothing to do with Collie leaving, I just think they might be better due to increased experience from their other skill guys. Many on CB are disagreeing with me on that. My guess is most on CB are aware and are saying that losing Collie is a huge blow to the team.
                I think that saying BYU's offense will be better next year and that losing Collie may be a good thing are completely different. I can respect someone who thinks the offense will improve as long as they acknowledge that it would improve more if Collie was back.

                There are definitely a few posters who have said that Collie leaving is good for BYU.
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                • Shaka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 10437

                  #9
                  Instead of Hall being locked on Collie we will now experience a phenomenon called, "Pittavision".

                  I think losing Collie is a hit but we have some talent to make up for it.

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                  • smokymountainrain
                    Impressive Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 22593

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                    I think that saying BYU's offense will be better next year and that losing Collie may be a good thing are completely different. I can respect someone who thinks the offense will improve as long as they acknowledge that it would improve more if Collie was back.

                    There are definitely a few posters who have said that Collie leaving is good for BYU.
                    Agreed.

                    I just wanted to clarify regarding DDD's post that the majority of CB posters, in my opinion, realize that losing Collie is a big loss.
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                    • cougjunkie
                      *Banned*
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 23223

                      #11
                      We are losing the best receivers in BYU history, and another receiver that is a 4 year major contributor in Mike Reed.

                      next year thecontributing receivers are as follows:

                      Player 2008 receptions
                      Oneill Chambers 3
                      Spencer Hafoka 1
                      Luke Ashworth 3
                      Mckay Jacobsen 0
                      Brett Thompson 0 (true freshman)
                      Marcus Matthews 0 (true freshman,just off mission)

                      So we will have 7 total receptions from our receivers next year. Now we did have over 100 between pitta and george that are returning but at the Wideout position we may be in trouble.
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                      • LiveCoug
                        LA Ute loves me
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 18485

                        #12
                        Pitta, George, Unga need to carry the receiving load. Hopefully one of the inexperienced receivers will step up (Ashworth, Hafoka or Chambers) and Jacobsen can produce like he did as a freshman.

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                        • RockyBalboa
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2127

                          #13
                          There is some good talent waiting in the wings, albeit largely inexperienced.

                          I think this is where Max Hall is going to show if he really has the chops to be a true leader or not. Time to take the young bucks under his wing.

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                          • TripletDaddy
                            sweet triple
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 58186

                            #14
                            Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                            Agreed.

                            I just wanted to clarify regarding DDD's post that the majority of CB posters, in my opinion, realize that losing Collie is a big loss.
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                            • TripletDaddy
                              sweet triple
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 58186

                              #15
                              Originally posted by LiveCoug View Post
                              Pitta, George, Unga need to carry the receiving load. Hopefully one of the inexperienced receivers will step up (Ashworth, Hafoka or Chambers) and Jacobsen can produce like he did as a freshman.
                              I may be in the minority, but I am getting impatient waiting for Chambers to finally fill the measure of his creation. Will he step up next season or is he going to wind up being all bark no bite?
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