How Do You Like Bronco Now?

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

I'll admit that last night changed my opinion of him for the better. I had thought BYU would come out uninterested and get lost on assignments while Jackwhizz and James went off for 500+ combined yards.

BYU took advantage of the chance to play a ranked opponent on a game that got a lot of attention, like Oklahoma. I think Bronco doesn't put a great face towards to public, I still think he probably hates the fans, I think he has pressure from above to act like a GA which is silly. However, I think last night showed he is starting to learn to manage above issues and coach great football.

[kccougar]

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On the other hand, this makes the FSU game all the more inexplicable.

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Explanation - no Scott Johnson in the FSU game. Seriously.

[kccougar]

Here are changes that I am very happy about.

Making a real effort to recruit non-LDS kids.

With Heaps, Van Noy and Apo coming in, seems to be backing off of talking about wanting RM's making up the 90% of his team. These kids as of now aren't planning on missions.

Isn't talking about the Hawaii model as the model for busting the BCS.


Watch next year. I will bet the percentage of religion talk to football talk swings heavily in favor of football talk. I will bet he doesn't go off on the fans.

Bronco is a smart guy. He learns. He may be stubborn, but he learns.

Just a hunch, but I think the BYU team that busts the BCS will have close to my 30% non-RM breakdown that I preached 3 years ago and was roundly criticized for saying.

Also - switching Anae and Doman in the booth.

[SoCalCoug]

One game does not a coach make,

If 11-2, 11-2, 10-3, 10-2 doesn't "make" a coach, a single bowl win certainly doesn't.

I think it just highlights the unfairness of any opinions that Bronco hasn't done a great job in his five years at BYU.

[ERCougar]

A couple of more thoughts:
1) Where's the Max Hall love? I don't know if you can appreciate on TV just how bad those conditions were. He was outstanding.
2) Canfield was horrible.
3) What's the story on OSU's backup? Is he young? He looked good--fast and throws a nice deep ball--but that could just be a function of playing against our scrubs.
4) Was that really a PI in the endzone towards the end of the game? Sure didn't look like it on the jumbotron. Bradley and Logan were awesome.

[smokymountainrain]

I agree with Indy that Bronco has been doing great (at least very good) things over the long term and it's a reflection on the fanbase that they continue to vacillate on their feelings about the whole thing. I will never complain about a 10-win season.

Agreed. It was the 2007 season when he had to break in almost all new skill position guys, including QB, that I realized he was an excellent coach for BYU. Again, I'm not a fan of his style (I wish he were more aggressive), but it's hard to complain about the results.

[smokymountainrain]

4) Was that really a PI in the endzone towards the end of the game? Sure didn't look like it on the jumbotron. Bradley and Logan were awesome.

If you are talking about the Logan PI, he mugged the guy. It had to be called.

I don't think they showed a replay of the second PI.

[Mormon Red Death]

A couple of more thoughts:

3) What's the story on OSU's backup? Is he young? He looked good--fast and throws a nice deep ball--but that could just be a function of playing against our scrubs.

That damn garbage touchdown cost me money!

I had a parlay of Nevada +8 in bball
and the under on 58.5.

[beefytee]

A couple of more thoughts:
1) Where's the Max Hall love? I don't know if you can appreciate on TV just how bad those conditions were. He was outstanding.
2) Canfield was horrible.
3) What's the story on OSU's backup? Is he young? He looked good--fast and throws a nice deep ball--but that could just be a function of playing against our scrubs.
4) Was that really a PI in the endzone towards the end of the game? Sure didn't look like it on the jumbotron. Bradley and Logan were awesome.

I wouldn't have called the Logan PI. If you are in position and swat the ball with your front hand, I consider it a clean play. A little contact when you swat the ball should be allowed.

[ERCougar]

If you are talking about the Logan PI, he mugged the guy. It had to be called.

I don't think they showed a replay of the second PI.

Interesting. I didn't doubt the second one, but the first looked like a great play. I'll take your word on it though.

[jay santos]

A couple of more thoughts:
1) Where's the Max Hall love? I don't know if you can appreciate on TV just how bad those conditions were. He was outstanding.
2) Canfield was horrible.
3) What's the story on OSU's backup? Is he young? He looked good--fast and throws a nice deep ball--but that could just be a function of playing against our scrubs.
4) Was that really a PI in the endzone towards the end of the game? Sure didn't look like it on the jumbotron. Bradley and Logan were awesome.

1. Max Hall was great. Huge game. I'm so glad he came up big these last two games. He will be remembered as a tough guy and a winner.
2. agree
4. Logan's was legit. I went nuts at the call but on the replay, Logan had his left arm wrapped around him the whole play and then used it for leverage to jump up and break up the pass. Pretty obvious call.

The secondary was AWESOME! After watching Utah's WR's being open every play, I was expecting OSU with a good QB to rip us to shreds. The DB's were right there step for step on every pass. I couldn't believe it. Seriously, I'd love to know the difference. Aguirre looked great on a few plays (bad on one I noticed but overall pretty good). I wonder if the chatter about Bradley moving to safety and Aguirre starting at CB will come about. Could actually be a decent secondary, if so.

[SoCalCoug]

4) Was that really a PI in the endzone towards the end of the game? Sure didn't look like it on the jumbotron. Bradley and Logan were awesome.

Yes, it was. He had his arm around the receiver.

[CJF]

I feel the same way. What do people want? This is the best four-year run in BYU football history (record-wise).

I think this four year stretch is also by far the strongest conference that BYU has ever played in. So the 10 and 11 win seasons really are an accomplishment in comparison to BYU teams of yore.

[I.J. Reilly]

A couple of more thoughts:
1) Where's the Max Hall love? I don't know if you can appreciate on TV just how bad those conditions were. He was outstanding.
2) Canfield was horrible.
3) What's the story on OSU's backup? Is he young? He looked good--fast and throws a nice deep ball--but that could just be a function of playing against our scrubs.
4) Was that really a PI in the endzone towards the end of the game? Sure didn't look like it on the jumbotron. Bradley and Logan were awesome.

The PI in the 4th was borderline, not because it wasn't a PI (it was. He had his arm wrapped around him and leveraged against him to get really good position to knock the ball down), but because the refs had been letting those type of things slide all game.

Also, to be clear, I never hated on Bronco winning games. I was always very pleased with that aspect. It was more the ancillary parts. Winning is obviously the biggest part of the game, but it's not the only part. No one is going to fire a winning coach, but if the coach is missing out on some of the other aspects then there won't be much to trade on in the case of a couple of mediocre seasons.

[falafel]

The PI in the 4th was borderline, not because it wasn't a PI (it was. He had his arm wrapped around him and leveraged against him to get really good position to knock the ball down), but because the refs had been letting those type of things slide all game.

I also think it didn't really affect the receiver's ability to make a play on the ball at all. It was Logan flying around and knocking the ball down, 2 feet in front of the receiver, that broke up the pass. Not his arm around the receiver's waste two seconds before the ball arrived. But, I suppose, that's not the rule.