Why isn't Whittingham mentioned more often for coaching vacancies?

[LA Ute]

Yeah, remember that time when KW and the Utes finished higher than 3rd place in the MWC? Clearly he is not a one-hit wonder.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't Bronco and Kyle each have one MWC football championship during their HC tenures?

[Goatnapper'96]

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't Bronco and Kyle each have one MWC football championship during their HC tenures?

No. Bronco has two.

[beefytee]

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't Bronco and Kyle each have one MWC football championship during their HC tenures?

Bronco has 2006 and 2007

[The_Tick]

I would be suprised to see any of the Big 3 leave right now. Another season like this last one for the MWC and I see the conference getting the auto-invite. And then that legitimizes with MWC as being a big boy conference. Then the MWC jobs are seen as desirable.

Bronco, Kyle, and Gary all become legends for what they did.

[Goatnapper'96]

btw, I am going to call a shot here re: Patterson. I think he is pursuing a brilliant strategy.

TCU is the toast of the town this season. He also knows that next season will be a similarly great run.

So rather than put out feelers this year, he agrees to a raise and a long deal, knowing that he will likely still be a hot commodity after next year...except that next year he can negotiate his BCS coaching gig off of his new, much higher base money and length of term.

If TCU has another 11 or so win season next year, I think Patterson will be gone. I am not convinced that Florida State has really settled on any long term coaching solution, for example. JoPa may retire now that Bowden is permanently in the rear-view mirror (unlikely but possible). There always seem to be vacancies.

I think FSU and Gary Patterson would be a good matchup. I think Patterson is the most likely of those mentioned to bolt, but I think it is going to take more than just money. I think he will only bolt for one of those top tier programs with the potential to be a consistent contender for the MNC. I don't think money only could get him to a program like ASU or South Carolina.

[LA Ute]

No. Bronco has two.

I stand corrected. Weak smack anyway. Iin 4 seasons, Bronco with 2 and Kyle with 1 is not exactly overwhelming.

[Hsaru]

I think there is a perception that Whit is largely continuing what Urban started. I think this is somewhat true no way 2008 happens if Urban didn't build the program in 2003 and 2004. With the mediocre 3rd or worse finishes in the MWC besides 2008 I don't think Whit is beating off high profile jobs with a stick.

Meyer could have gone to any school after 2004, teams would have fired their coach to get him in a lot of cases, which is likely what ND tried to do.

[scottie]

I think Bronco is the most understandable, I'm sure it is fairly well known in the coaching fraternity that he has stated that he views this as not only a job but a higher calling from God (so did Gerry Faust, but God didn't seem to view it the same way). Patterson would have been a very hot commodity this year, but TCU was smart and locked him up early. It just seems to me that KW is the prime candidate.

It's interesting that GP's new contract doesn't contain a buyout clause, any school he leaves for doesn't have to pay TCU a penny.

http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/...y/1807062.html

[LA Ute]

I think there is a perception that Whit is largely continuing what Urban started. I think this is somewhat true no way 2008 happens if Urban didn't build the program in 2003 and 2004. With the mediocre 3rd or worse finishes in the MWC besides 2008 I don't think Whit is beating off high profile jobs with a stick.

Meyer took talent that Ron McBride did a great job recruiting and did a fabulous job of making it extraordinarily successful. He left when he was hot. Kyle has built what he has on his own, steadily. Only BYU fans call Kyle's record mediocre.

I haven't followed Bronco closely enough to know what he's done but I can't argue with his results, except for lack of success against ranked teams and in bowl games.

[Hsaru]

You have to be pretty naive if you don't think that 2008 Utah doesn't have Meyer's handprint still on it, even if the majority of players weren't Meyer recruits, Meyer changed the culture of that team and it still hasn't gone away.

[LA Ute]

You have to be pretty naive if you don't think that 2008 Utah doesn't have Meyer's handprint still on it, even if the majority of players weren't Meyer recruits, Meyer changed the culture of that team and it still hasn't gone away.

No doubt. We owe a ton to Ron McBride and Urban Meyer. BYU owes so much to LaVell that they named the stadium after him. (Not so much is owed to Gary Genius.) Later coaches always build on the earlier coach's legacy. You are trying to take away from what KW has accomplished by pointing to Meyer's success. Not gonna let you do it, no sirree!

[SeattleUte]

LOL! Kyle looks more and more like a one year hit wonder. How could anyone not beat BYU when the qb can only complete 33% of his passes?

In the real world Bronco gets zero points for all those Las Vegas bowls. Doing what Kyle did last year was harder than you might think.

[Goatnapper'96]

In the real world Bronco gets zero points for all those Las Vegas bowls. Doing what Kyle did last year was harder than you might think.

Kyle is a great coach. I no longer debate that point. I am one of the few reasonable college football fans who sees no shame in the fact that 80% of his career he is looking up at Mendenhall when the final MWC standings are published. Neither is there shame that he has a worse record in both head to head matchups and against common opponents.


With all that talent he has at Utah it takes a special coach to lose to BYU when the margin of victory comes down to BYU defense and special teams creating points!

The last piece was for humor, sort of!

[TripletDaddy]

Kyle is a great coach. I no longer debate that point. I am one of the few reasonable college football fans who sees no shame in the fact that 80% of his career he is looking up at Mendenhall when the final MWC standings are published. Neither is there shame that he has a worse record in both head to head matchups and against common opponents.


With all that talent he has at Utah it takes a special coach to lose to BYU when the margin of victory comes down to BYU defense and special teams creating points!

The last piece was for humor, sort of!

This is one huge, embarrassing SMACKDOWN!!!

Go Army, Beat Navy, Keep FUCLA out of a bowl game!

[Goatnapper'96]

This is one huge, embarrassing SMACKDOWN!!!

Go Army, Beat Navy, Keep FUCLA out of a bowl game!

Today you are my brother! If keeping FUCLA out of a bowl game is wrong, I don't wanna be right! Only the Army-Navy classic could bring Lancers and Pioneers so close together!