BCS Bowl Selections

[Color Me Badd Fan]

So, what are the chances that Boise State gets in? Basically it comes down to Virginia Tech or Boise State. I won't rule out the possibility that the Fiesta could pick Boise State ahead of TCU because the perception probably is that Boise travels better than TCU. TCU is the more interesting team to match up against Penn State, but Boise at least routinely sells out its games and they have a recent history of being in good bowl games.

But I still think the Fiesta is much more likely to pick TCU. If Alabama loses the SEC title game, that will leave the Sugar with the choice between Alabama vs. Boise or Alabama vs. and three loss V-Tech (a rematch from earlier). The Big 12, Pac 10, Big East (most likely) won't have more than one BCS-eligible team. That leaves Virginia Tech as the only remaining at large team from a BCS conference after the second Big 10 and SEC teams are picked. Would a three loss Virginia Tech team really be that much more attractive to the Sugar Bowl than Boise? I don't get the impression that Virginia Tech's fanbase is up there with the big boys as far as traveling to bowl games. True, Boise isn't there either but I still think an undefeated Boise team can pull more fans and viewers than a three loss Virginia Tech game.

Here are my predictions:

NT: Florida vs. Texas
Rose: Oregon vs. Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. Cincy
Fiesta: Penn State vs. TCU
Sugar: Alabama vs. Boise State

BTW, don't the MWC and WAC have a BCS revenue sharing deal?

Also BTW as I mentioned in another thread, BYU right now is the only other at large eligible team outside of Virginia Tech and Boise State after the second Big 10 and SEC teams are picked. After suffering through the empty seats at the West Virginia vs. Oklahoma game, you'd have to wonder how much the Fiesta Bowl cares about making sure they have a sellout. BYU vs. Penn State produces a higher likelihood of a sellout than any other matchup. The controversy of a 2 loss BYU team getting in ahead of an undefeated Boise team would be too great, I don't think BYU is even on the Fiesta's radar.

[Fiyero]

If TCU and Cincy end up undefeated at #3 and #4, they need to face off.

And with Obama's proposed meddling, hopefully he'll invite the winner to the White House.

[Maximus]

So, what are the chances that Boise State gets in? Basically it comes down to Virginia Tech or Boise State. I won't rule out the possibility that the Fiesta could pick Boise State ahead of TCU because the perception probably is that Boise travels better than TCU. TCU is the more interesting team to match up against Penn State, but Boise at least routinely sells out its games and they have a recent history of being in good bowl games.

But I still think the Fiesta is much more likely to pick TCU. If Alabama loses the SEC title game, that will leave the Sugar with the choice between Alabama vs. Boise or Alabama vs. and three loss V-Tech (a rematch from earlier). The Big 12, Pac 10, Big East (most likely) won't have more than one BCS-eligible team. That leaves Virginia Tech as the only remaining at large team from a BCS conference after the second Big 10 and SEC teams are picked. Would a three loss Virginia Tech team really be that much more attractive to the Sugar Bowl than Boise? I don't get the impression that Virginia Tech's fanbase is up there with the big boys as far as traveling to bowl games. True, Boise isn't there either but I still think an undefeated Boise team can pull more fans and viewers than a three loss Virginia Tech game.

Here are my predictions:

NT: Florida vs. Texas
Rose: Oregon vs. Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. Cincy
Fiesta: Penn State vs. TCU
Sugar: Alabama vs. Boise State

BTW, don't the MWC and WAC have a BCS revenue sharing deal?

Also BTW as I mentioned in another thread, BYU right now is the only other at large eligible team outside of Virginia Tech and Boise State after the second Big 10 and SEC teams are picked. After suffering through the empty seats at the West Virginia vs. Oklahoma game, you'd have to wonder how much the Fiesta Bowl cares about making sure they have a sellout. BYU vs. Penn State produces a higher likelihood of a sellout than any other matchup. The controversy of a 2 loss BYU team getting in ahead of an undefeated Boise team would be too great, I don't think BYU is even on the Fiesta's radar.

I had a dream BSU and TCU got killed their last games.TCU was playing South Carolina and I cant remember who BSU was playing. I thought, that would put BYU into a BCS bowl. Meh, probably the most useless comment for the day.

In other news, I think VA tech would be chosen before BYU.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I had a dream BSU and TCU got killed their last games.TCU was playing South Carolina and I cant remember who BSU was playing. I thought, that would put BYU into a BCS bowl. Meh, probably the most useless comment for the day.

In other news, I think VA tech would be chosen before BYU.

You have weird dreams.

[falafel]

You have weird dreams.

You want to talk about weird dreams? I had a dream last night that I was watching a movie based on Harry Reid's autobiography. The actor chosen to play Reid: Jim Carrey.

[doctorcoug]

TCU can't b left out of the BCS. it is against the rules. They hve qualified, unless by an act of God Boise leap frogs TCU in the standigs.

[Jeff Lebowski]

You want to talk about weird dreams? I had a dream last night that I was watching a movie based on Harry Reid's autobiography. The actor chosen to play Reid: Jim Carrey.

you win.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

TCU can't b left out of the BCS. it is against the rules. They hve qualified, unless by an act of God Boise leap frogs TCU in the standigs.

Of course, TCU can't be left out. I'm just saying there's a chance that the Fiesta would pick Boise State ahead of either Va-Tech or TCU in the interest of selling more tickets. I simply don't believe the fanbase of a three loss Va Tech team will travel to Phoenix for a bowl game more than the fanbase of a undefeated Boise team. The real question is whether the Fiesta wants TCU or Boise, and I think they'll pick Boise. If that happens, then the Sugar is forced to pick TCU.

If Alabama is the team in the Sugar Bowl, I would be surprised if the Sugar selects Va Tech since the two teams already played each other earlier. With Alabama, the Sugar doesn't need to worry about selling out the stadium, so you'd have to think that they'll pick the best team left and that would be Boise (if the Fiesta doesn't pick Boise). If the Sugar and Fiesta actually worked together on the deal, it would be best for the fans if Boise went to the Fiesta to play Penn State and TCU to play Alabama. Alabama could be the 2nd best team in the country and a Bama vs. TCU game would be interesting to watch. I think Boise would get smacked around by Bama while TCU would have a really good shot at winning.

[Mormon Red Death]

The selections will go like this

Sugar (to replace sec winner)
Fiesta (to replace texas)
Orange to play the winner of ga tech and clemson
Sugar
Fiesta

Tcu and the winner of the pitt cincy games must be chosen

I think it will go like this

Sugar - bama
Fiesat - penn st
Orange - cincy
Sugar - tcu
Fiesta - boise st

One wrinkle is if usc beats arizona badly then they get the votes and move to 14 (jumping miami and byu) fiesta would probably pick them.

[OrangeUte]

If TCU and Cincy end up undefeated at #3 and #4, they need to face off.

And with Obama's proposed meddling, hopefully he'll invite the winner to the White House.

ditto that. the only way i am happy for tcu is if they line up against cinci or the loser of the bama/florida game. those would be fun to watch. tcu v. penn state isn't as exciting and would remind me too much of the dissing of the utes by sticking us with pitt the first time around. i say give tcu a shot at an regular season undefeated team since they are, themselves, an undefeated team.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

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I think it will go like this

Sugar - bama
Fiesat - penn st
Orange - cincy
Sugar - tcu
Fiesta - boise st

One wrinkle is if usc beats arizona badly then they get the votes and move to 14 (jumping miami and byu) fiesta would probably pick them.

I said this before, so maybe I am still an idiot or still really smart, but I think the SEC and Alabama's history with the SUGAR BOWL will prevent them from picking another BCS buster to play Alabama.

[OrangeUte]

I said this before, so maybe I am still an idiot or still really smart, but I think the SEC and Alabama's history with the SUGAR BOWL will prevent them from picking another BCS buster to play Alabama.

but, the intrigue of alabama taking on tcu after getting spanked by the utes last year might be for good ratings.

[Babs]

I said this before, so maybe I am still an idiot or still really smart, but I think the SEC and Alabama's history with the SUGAR BOWL will prevent them from picking another BCS buster to play Alabama.

why not? Fiesta did it to Oklahoma. Besides, this is the big storyline of the season...just how good is the MWC. I think they'd be thrilled to have SEC v. TCU. People will way more tune in for that than to see GaTech play the BearCats.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

why not? Fiesta did it to Oklahoma. Besides, this is the big storyline of the season...just how good is the MWC. I think they'd be thrilled to have SEC v. TCU. People will way more tune in for that than to see GaTech play the BearCats.

How did they do it to Oklahoma? WVU isn't a buster, they are an AQ school. I'd enjoy the SUGAR BOWL if it was Christians vs. Bama, that wasn't my point.

[Color Me Badd Fan]

The selections will go like this

Sugar (to replace sec winner)
Fiesta (to replace texas)
Orange to play the winner of ga tech and clemson
Sugar
Fiesta

Tcu and the winner of the pitt cincy games must be chosen

I think it will go like this

Sugar - bama
Fiesat - penn st
Orange - cincy
Sugar - tcu
Fiesta - boise st

One wrinkle is if usc beats arizona badly then they get the votes and move to 14 (jumping miami and byu) fiesta would probably pick them.

From everything I've been reading, the selection for the final three spots goes in this order: Orange, Fiesta, Sugar. If the Fiesta were picking last, it definitely would choose Boise over a three loss Va Tech team. Unfortunately, it's the Sugar that is picking last this year.

I love the final set of criteria as described on Fox's BCS website:

5. After completion of the selection process as described in Paragraph Nos. 1-4, the conferences and Notre Dame may, but are not required to, adjust the pairings taking into consideration the following:


A. whether the same team will be playing in the same bowl game for two consecutive years;
B. whether two teams that played against one another in the regular season will be paired against one another in a bowl game;
C. whether the same two teams will play against each other in a bowl game for two consecutive years; and
D. whether alternative pairings may have greater or lesser appeal to college football fans as measured by expected ticket sales for the bowls and by expected television interest, and the consequent financial impact on Fox and the bowls.

If the bowls actually paid attention to this, we wouldn't have had the poo-poo platter that were the January 2008 BCS bowls. What people want to see this year is TCU play in the Sugar Bowl against the SEC runner-up, not some overrated team from the Big 10 in the Fiesta that travels well and sells tickets. The Fiesta should be happy with a Boise vs. Penn State match-up, but they get to pick before the Sugar so they'll probably get TCU. At best, Boise has a 50-50 shot at landing a Sugar bowl slot ahead of a three loss Va Tech that has already played likely Sugar Bowl participant Alabama.